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A Skeptic’s Hoax Near-Death Experience and Fraud Is Exposed

A skeptic named Thomas Westbrook posted a hoax NDE (which has been removed) on a popular NDE website on June 11, 2017. Then, two weeks later, Westbrook created a YouTube video called “Near Death Experiences Explained – Truth About NDEs” on his Holy Koolaid Channel to promote the hoax as part of an effort to “prove” such NDE testimony is “useless”. Then on June 26, 2017, I stumbled upon the skeptic’s video in an article on the Pathos Blog which profiled the hoax and video. I watched the skeptic’s video which I thought was silly and filled with arguments that have been thoroughly debunked. I contacted the webmaster of the popular NDE website and informed them about the hoax NDE on their website.

But the skeptic made a serious mistake. The hoax NDE he described in the video is not what he claimed he posted on the NDE website. For example, in the video he claimed he posted a hoax NDE that included a “golden robot-god C-3PO” (of Star Wars fame). He even placed an image of C-3PO on the cover of his video. The problem is he doesn’t mention a “golden robot-god” or “C-3PO” in the hoax NDE he posted on the NDE website. This proves the skeptic is a fraud and the only hoax he is promoting is himself on the general public. In the video, the skeptic makes many claims against the reliability of near-death studies and against any evidence supporting the Afterlife Hypothesis. This article will present his arguments and refute each one of them.

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Table of Contents

  1. A Comparison of Skeptic’s Hoax NDE in His YouTube Video with His Hoax NDE Posted on the NDE Website
  2. Watch the Skeptic’s YouTube Video “Near Death Experiences Explained – Truth About NDEs”
  3. Counter-Arguments Against the Transcript of the Skeptic’s YouTube Video
  4. NDERF Survey Methodology Minimizing the Risk of Falsified Accounts

1. A Comparison of Skeptic’s Hoax NDE in His YouTube Video with His Hoax NDE Posted on the NDE Website

The following is the hoax NDE the skeptic in the video claimed he posted. The words in bold are common words used in both the video and the hoax NDE posted on the NDERF.org website. Notice the ridiculous elements included in it.

The Skeptic’s Hoax NDE in the Video:

“My leg was amputated and my heart stopped. I floated off the operating table before explosive diarrhea launched me at light speed to a beautiful rain forest paradise where I was greeted by my dead grandpa and the golden robot-god C-3PO who was floating through the air on a chair and speaking in Spanish.” (Skeptic in the video)

Now compare his claimed hoax NDE in the video with the actual hoax NDE he posted on the NDE website (which has already been removed from the Internet). They are not the same. Notice that the skeptic doesn’t mention a “paradise”. He doesn’t mention a “robot-god”. He doesn’t mention “C-3PO”. He doesn’t mention a “chair” at all. So the hoax is on those who believe the skeptic is true in what he claims.

The Skeptic’s Hoax NDE Posted on the NDERF.org Website:

“I developed a massive infection in my leg and the antibiotics weren’t working. So the doctors needed to amputate my leg. They gave me anesthesia to put me under and during the operation, I lost a lot of blood. The doctors said that what happened was extremely rare, but my heart stopped and I flatlined. What happened next was the weirdest thing I’ve ever experienced and I haven’t shared it with anyone else because they’ll think I’m crazy. But after reading these stories here, I feel like I can open up. I felt myself floating off the operating table. I looked down and saw the doctors scrambling around to bring me back. At that point, I felt my bowels completely emptying, like explosive diarrhea. It was as though that launched me upwards through space. I was propelled towards a light. It was like a tunnel. I know it sounds cliché, but I don’t know how else to describe it. I guess it was like in Star Wars when the millennium falcon enters light speed and all of the light from the stars bend towards it. I felt so warm and at peace. It was the greatest feeling I’ve ever experienced in my life. I didn’t know what was at the end of the tunnel, but I knew that it was something spectacular. Suddenly I was in a tropical forest on some spectacular world. My grandfather was there and he’s been dead for years! It was so good to see him again. He smiled at me and I knew deep down inside that he was proud of me. Then I looked up and saw the most beautiful golden man, brighter than a thousand stars! He greeted me first in Spanish and then in English. I could tell he was all knowing, because how else could he speak every single language? He floated through the air towards me and then asked why I’ve been such a skeptic. I didn’t feel threatened, but I knew I had been missing something huge in my life. I still feel the sense of urgency and the memory is ridiculously vivid. He told me that it wasn’t my time yet, but that I needed to return to earth and tell people the good news about him. That’s when I felt my body being sucked backwards. I didn’t want to leave. I still wish I could have stayed, but I guess it’s for the better. I was sent back to my hospital bed. I eventually recovered, except that I’m missing my leg. I should be getting a prosthetic soon. I feel weird sharing it, and have only told a couple of family members. They think I’m crazy, but I know that what I experienced was the real deal. I don’t want to force them to believe me, but I don’t know how else to convince them that there’s something else out there. Hopefully my story helps someone who’s in a similar boat as me.” (Skeptic’s NDE posted on the NDERF.org Website)

So, as you can see for yourself, the skeptic is perpetuating a fraud about his hoax NDE. In the video, he doesn’t mention a “paradise,” nor a “robot-god,” nor does he mention “C3PO,” nor does he mention him “on a chair.” The hoax NDE he posted on the website does not contain these ridiculous elements which would cause it to be automatically identified as a hoax.

2. Watch the Skeptic’s YouTube Video “Near Death Experiences Explained – Truth About NDEs”

3. Counter-Arguments Against the Transcript of the Skeptic’s YouTube Video

Skeptic’s Argument: “You’re surrounded by darkness, floating through the air. Suddenly a bright light approaches! You enter a great hall and are greeted by the Hindu god of death Yama who rests beside his two ferocious hellhounds, doted on by servants. His accountant Chitragupta is there flipping through a book to check your karma before realizing that whoops! They messed up! There’s been a mistake! And now they have to send you back. You wake up in a hospital bed surrounded by doctors and very confused. The Hindu’s were right all along? What the hell just happened? You’ve just had a near-death experience (NDE). But does this mean there’s a heaven or a hell?” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic’s argument is that, if you have an NDE with Hindu related religious elements included in it, and you are not a Hindu, then it is not evidence of a heaven or a hell. But this is not really a logical argument at all, but merely an assumption. The fact is NDEs have a variety of religious elements to them and not all are based upon the NDEr’s cultural background. For example, a Christian named Nancy Evans Bush once had an NDE involving the Taoist ying-yang symbol and beings informing her of Taoist philosophy. A Jewish person named Jeanie Dicus had an NDE and was asked by Jesus if she wanted to return to life or reincarnate. Howard Storm, an atheist, met Jesus and was accepted by him and by God. Carl G. Jung, the famous Swiss psychiatrist, had an NDE where he saw a black Hindu sitting silently in lotus position before the gate of a heavenly Hindu temple. So, although NDEs in general are interpreted by those who have them based upon their own cultural and religious background, this is not always the case.

Also, throughout the skeptic’s video, he has an obvious problem distinguishing between evidence and proof. Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion. This support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion. At the other extreme is evidence that is merely consistent with an assertion but does not rule out other, contradictory assertions, as in circumstantial evidence. Proof (or truth) is sufficient evidence or a sufficient argument for the truth of a proposition. So it is irrelevant whether or not an NDE has Hindi elements in it. Having an NDE can provide evidence of an afterlife, or a heaven or a hell. But in no way do NDE researchers claim NDEs are proof of the same.

Skeptic’s Argument: “At first glance, near-death experiences seem to be convincing proof of an afterlife. Except for a couple major problems. First off, in the largest study of NDEs ever conducted, only 9 percent of cardiac arrest survivors who were able to complete a detailed interview had a near death experience. If people have souls and everyone who dies goes to heaven or hell, then what’s up with the other 91% who flat line, but never have an NDE?” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: Only 9% of cardiac arrest survivors report NDEs. So the skeptic assumes “if people have souls” and “everyone who dies goes to heaven or hell” then the other 91% who flatline should report NDEs as well. Not true. According to the director of the NDE study mentioned in the video, Dr. Sam Parnia, “A number of NDErs may have vivid death experiences, but do not recall them due to the effects of brain injury or sedative drugs on memory circuits.” Also, it has been documented how some NDErs have reported NDEs in between cardiac arrest resuscitations; but when finally stabilized, they have absolutely no memories of it at all. This shows some people have NDEs but have no memories of them afterward. Also, the skeptic’s argument is a fallacy which can be demonstrated by the fact that studies show about 55% of the population will ever have a lucid dream. Some people don’t even remember their nightly dreams at all. Using the skeptic’s logic, because everyone experiences REM sleep, everyone should therefore lucid dream and remember their dreams. But this logic, as well as the skeptic’s logic, is obviously false.

Skeptic’s Argument: “But even with such a small percentage, there are still thousands of anecdotes from people who claim to have returned from the other side. In his 1975 book Life After Life, Dr. Raymond Moody’s interviewed 150 people about their near death experiences, and Dr. Jeffrey Long has accumulated over 4000 near-death experience accounts online. Both are convinced that these stories are proof of an afterlife. But in both of these cases they’re all just anecdotes. I’m not saying these people didn’t experience something odd. But I am saying that we should take it with a grain of salt, because if anecdotes meet your standard for what qualifies as evidence, then you should probably start buying tin foil and food buckets, because there are just as many people who report seeing reptilians and who have been abducted by aliens. To prove just how useless anecdotes are, I successfully submitted a fictitious near death experience account to Dr. Long’s website that’s been up for over two weeks now, in which my leg was amputated and my heart stopped. “I floated off the operating table before explosive diarrhea launched me at light speed to a beautiful rainforest paradise where I was greeted by my dead grandpa and the golden robot-god C-3PO who was floating through the air on a chair and speaking in Spanish.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: As previously mentioned, the skeptic is perpetuating a fraud because he did not submit the same fictitious NDE on Dr. Long’s website that he claimed he did in the video. The fictitious NDE he submitted on Dr. Long’s website did not include the words “paradise,” “robot-god,” “C3PO,” or “on a chair.” The fictitious NDE he submitted had no ridiculous elements to it and, therefore gave no reason for it to be rejected as a hoax.

But by attempting to post a hoax NDE with (he claims) ridiculous elements to it, the skeptic says his goal is to prove how “useless” anecdotal evidence is in NDE studies because, according to his logic:

“If anecdotes meet your standard for what qualifies as evidence, then you should probably start buying tin foil and food buckets, because there are just as many people who report seeing reptilians and who have been abducted by aliens.” (Skeptic in the video)

However, the skeptic is misinformed about anecdotal evidence. Anecdotal evidence, such as eyewitness testimony, is used every day in courtrooms around the country. Anecdotal evidence is also used all the time for very important studies in evidence-based practices such as in evidence-based medicine where published anecdotal evidence by professional physicians in case studies are subjected to formal peer review including near-death studies. Other evidence-based clinical practices rely on anecdotal evidence including: (1) evidence-based psychology, (2) evidence-based nursing, (3) dentistry, (4) audiology, (5) evidence-based international pharmaceuticals, (6) evidence-based social work and (7) evidence-based education.

Skeptic’s Argument: “You would expect, that if any particular religious account of the afterlife were true, every NDE would be pretty much the same. But these accounts are so varied and are all based on cultural exposure. In India people see Hindu gods, in Saudi Arabia it’s Mohammad, Allah, and a bunch of virgins. The kid from the book/movie Heaven is for Real saw a Jesus with bright blue eyes, and one little girl went to heaven and was greeted by a portly man with a white beard and a red cap a.k.a. Santa Clause.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic argues that all NDEs should be the same if they are real afterlife experiences. He argues they are all so varied and based upon cultural exposure; so therefore, this falsifies NDEs against being real afterlife experiences. But if all NDEs were exactly identical, this would make Susan Blackmore‘s “dying brain theory” more likely. It would show NDEs are only experiences coming from “hard-wired” brains. But because NDEs are different, this shows they are not “hard-wired” experiences, but rather dynamic experiences — as with life experiences in general. NDEs are very similar to lucid dreaming — an experience of virtual reality where all things are virtually possible. And just as one person’s dream is different from another, so do differences between NDEs correspond with reality. NDEs are very private, personal experiences – as private as a person’s clothes, hair color, language, size, etc. An NDEr’s subjective experiences can be attributed to many factors: the NDEr’s psychology, personal experience, background, etc. — not just culture. One of the truths of the NDE is each person integrates their NDE into their own preexisting belief system. Everyone is unique and everyone experiences the world in a way unique to anyone else in the universe. It is the same with NDEs. Reality exists in the mind of the beholder. In ordinary life, we create our own reality from the actions we take and the thoughts we think inwardly. You are what you think. The NDE appears to be no different.

Skeptic’s Argument: “But what about veridical NDEs – near-death experiences in which the person sees something they couldn’t otherwise have known while ‘flat-lining’ and others are able to verify that what they saw is indeed correct. The most notorious example of this is Maria’s shoe. A lady named Maria reportedly left her body floated around and saw a shoe on a ledge outside her hospital window that she ‘couldn’t have possibly seen.’ Her critical care provider, Kimberly Clark looked outside and saw the shoe just as described. But when researchers tried to track down Maria to confirm Clark’s story, they weren’t able to find any such person or anyone else to corroborate the account. And when they placed a shoe on the ledge, it was clearly visible from the hospital room, proving Clark had exaggerated at least part of the story.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: This pseudoskeptical argument about Kimberly Clark-Sharp‘s case of “Maria’s Shoe” has been debunked a long time ago in an article by Kimberly Clark-Sharp in the scholarly peer-reviewed Journal of Near-Death Studies 25(4), Summer 2007 (PDF).

Skeptic’s Argument: “Not one case of veridical NDEs has ever been confirmed under a scientifically controlled setting.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic is badly misinformed. One of the best cases of verified out-of-body (OBE) perception during an NDE that meets all the criteria for whole brain death is the case of Pam Reynolds. Pam’s extraordinary NDE occurred while she underwent a rare surgical procedure called a “standstill” to remove a brain aneurysm. The procedure required her to:

(1) become unconscious by use of an anesthetic;
(2) have her body temperature lowered to 60 degrees;
(3) have her heart and breathing stopped;
(4) have her brain waves allowed to flatten; and
(5) have all the blood drained from her head.

Under these conditions, conscious awareness should be medically impossible. Yet, while Pam was in this condition, she later reported how she floated out of her body and watched the doctors operate on her body. She was able to describe in specific detail the surgical instruments, the conversations among the physicians, and the procedures performed on her during her surgery. She was reunited with deceased loved ones during her NDE and was reluctant to return to her body. Pam’s ability to see and hear events while out of her body were later verified to be true — a phenomenon occurring in many NDE called “veridical perception.” You can read the entire account and the evidence on my website. More examples of veridical OBE perception can be found on my “Out-of Body Experiences and the Near-Death Experience” article and this article. There is also a book entitled, “The Self Does Not Die: Verified Paranormal Phenomena from Near-Death Experiences” containing over 100 cases of veridical OBE perception.

Skeptic’s Argument: “To quote physicist Dr. Vic Stenger, ‘To scientifically prove life after death is going to require carefully controlled experiments, not just a lot of stories. The plural of anecdote is not ‘data.’” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: Although it may be impossible to ever prove life after death, there is much evidence supporting the reality of it. There are carefully controlled experiments and studies presenting evidence suggesting NDEs are actual afterlife experiences. For example, studies show: (1) people have NDEs while they are brain dead; (2) out-of-body perception during NDEs have been verified by independent parties; (3) people born blind can see for the first time in their lives during an NDE; (4) NDEs cannot be explained by brain chemistry alone; (5) the so-called “dying brain” theory of NDEs has major flaws and has been falsified; (6) NDEs have been proven to be different from hallucinations; (7) people having NDEs have brought back scientific discoveries — some of which have been scientific breakthroughs; (8) NDEs change people in ways that hallucinations and dreams cannot; (9) NDEs have produced visions of the future which later became true; (10) the vast majority of people having NDEs are convinced they saw an afterlife; (11) people’s memories of their NDEs are more real than normal memories. You can read the rest of the 40+ other evidence supporting NDEs and the afterlife on this website.

Skeptic’s Argument: “Some people reported gaining supernatural powers after an NDE, the great thing about this, is we can test it. But no one has ever proven it under a controlled setting.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic’s argument is false. One of the possible aftereffects of having an NDE is becoming psychic. One of the most well known NDErs who became psychic after having an NDE is Dannion Brinkley. In an attempt to verify his psychic abilities attained from his NDE, the popular TV show “Unsolved Mysteries” asked renowned parapsychologist Dr. William Roll to conduct a series of tests. Dannion gave readings for eight people he had never met before. According to Dr. Roll, Dannion picked out several details about the lives of the individuals which he could not have known. Dr. Roll described Dannion as one of the more remarkable psychics he has ever worked with. Dannion was also asked to consult on a brutal murder case. On August 12, 1993, in Big Fork, Montana, John and Nancy Bosco had been shot to death, execution style, as they slept. The police investigation turned up absolutely no leads. Two months later, John’s mother Toni met with Dannion. Dannion described the killer as a slight-built young man with black hair who knew John and the layout of the house. Dannion said the man was in a college somewhere in the West, but predicted he would be arrested in the very early part of December. Incredibly, Dannion was correct on all counts; 18-year-old Joseph “Shadow” Clark was arrested in December, and later convicted. Just as Dannion predicted, Clark had lived in the murder house, had known the Boscos, and was attending college in the West. Dannion had apparently solved the case through the power of his own mind. Other NDErs such as Paul Elder, Joseph McMoneagle and David Morehouse attain remote viewing skills which attracted the attention of top secret U.S. government officials. Other NDErs such as Peter Anthony have been employed by law enforcement as a psychic detective; some NDErs become spiritual mediums such as Susanne Wilson; some NDErs become psychic diagnosticians such as Dr. Yvonne Kason; some NDErs become astral projection experts such as Dr. Dianne Morrissey; some NDErs become earthquake sensitives such as Elaine Durham; and some NDErs become EVP experts such as Gabbie Chase.

Skeptic’s Argument: “Although, I hear the James Randi Foundation has been offering a million-dollar prize to anyone who can prove they have supernatural powers.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic’s argument assumes James Randi’s prize is a valid test to prove supernatural powers. His argument is that because no one has won James Randi’s prize; this proves there are no supernatural powers. But over the years, it has become evident to parapsychologists that Randi’s Foundation is not a real scientific research organization seeking the truth in these matters. Many articles have been written to document this fact. A recent article came out when Randi ended his prize providing some good background: The James Randi 1 Million Dollar Challenge Finally Terminated. This article includes a summary of the debate and links to some articles explaining the pseudoskeptical nature of Randi’s so-called “challenge”.

Skeptic’s Argument: “One example of post NDE supernatural claims is Dannion Brinkley who wrote a book in 1994 called Saved by the Light, in which he described his prophetic powers and claimed to have prophesied about things in 1975 that later came true. One of Dannion’s 1975 prophecies was that China would invade the Soviet Union, fight over a railroad, and proceed to march deep into the heart of the USSR. Yep. Totally happened.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic argues that because a few of Dannion Brinkley’s NDE visions of the future turned out to be wrong; this proves Brinkley is a total fraud. But during Brinkley’s NDE he was shown 117 visions of the future (95 of them have already happened). These include the election of Ronald Reagan, the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the Gulf War in 1991. Dr. Raymond Moody, the “father of the NDE” has verified that Dannion did indeed predict these events in 1975 before they happened. Just because he got a few wrong – or maybe even interpreted the visions wrong – doesn’t nullify the other visions he got correct. And where does it state a psychic must be 100% accurate to be a real psychic? Only in the skeptic’s uninformed mind.

Skeptic’s Argument: “Oh, and Alex Malarkey, the kid from the book “The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven” admitted the entire story was a hoax … after the book sold a million copies.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: I agree that publishing a hoax NDE, such as “The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven”, and making money off of it is very wrong and unethical. But this is exactly what the skeptic is doing by publishing his hoax NDE in the video and asking for donations through Paypal or Bitcoin at the end of it.

Skeptic’s Argument: “While parapsychologists, pastors, and religious gurus are all quick to speculate and jump to conflicting conclusions that near-death experiences are proof of their god, scientists have consistently stated for decades now that we don’t know exactly what’s going on during an NDE, but they continue to do research. And here’s what we’ve found: There’s no indication whatsoever that anything supernatural is going on.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic’s argument about the supernatural and NDEs has been falsified in the peer reviewed Journal of Near-Death Studies. Also, the skeptic is obviously not familiar with quantum mechanics (QM) which does not rule out the possibility of an “afterlife” universe or “afterlife” dimension (a multiverse, a multidimensional universe) or the survival of brain function after death (quantum immortality). Through quantum decoherence and quantum superposition, the idea of parallel universes offers the possibility for the existence of a communicating parallel universe acting as a person’s afterlife universe when death occurs. As derived from the Many-WORLDS interpretation of QM, and its extending concept of Many-MINDS interpretation of QM, it is theoretically possible for a living person to exist in superposition in a parallel universe (including their mental states and electrical discharges occurring throughout their brain and nervous system). Many-Worlds views reality as a many-branched tree where every possible quantum outcome is realized including the possibility of branches to universes that doesn’t lead to a living person’s death. Theoretically, this makes it possible for a living person to continue living in a parallel universe when the person dies in this current universe.

More support for the possibility of survival after death comes from the current string theory interpretation of the holographic principle of quantum physics. This principle defines our universe as existing as a hologram where all the quantum information we perceive in three dimensions is stored. First proposed by the eminent physicist David Bohm (author of Bohmian mechanics and co-author of the holonomic brain theory along with Karl Pribram), a holographic universe can theoretically encode every quantized moment of our existence and experiences from the universe. Rather than a constant flow of experience, mental states can be broken up in intervals or time-quanta of 0.042 seconds, each of which make up one moment of neural substrate. Each state consists of a certain amount of quantum information which can theoretically be stored on a hard drive for example; and there is much progress ongoing in this technology. This holographic model of reality allows for phenomena considered “paranormal” such as near-death experiences, other phenomena involving life after death, and mental telepathy for example. The universe as a single hologram also solves the mystery of quantum entanglement which Albert Einstein derisively called “spooky actions from a distance.”

Also, the materialist model of conventional science is based on the old paradigm of Newtonian classical mechanics and is fundamentally flawed. Conventional materialist concepts of reality have been falsified such as: (1) locality, (2) causality, (3) continuity, (4) determinism, and (5) certainty in the last century by the modern science of quantum electrodynamics. At the core of materialism, the fundamental component of existence – the nature of consciousness — is intentionally ignored even though the pioneers of quantum mechanics demonstrated and believed consciousness has a definite role in creating reality. Mainstream materialist theories of consciousness use classical mechanics in assuming consciousness emerged and is produced from “goo”. So they focus particularly on complex computation at synapses in the brain allowing communication between neurons. But because quantum vibrations have been discovered in microtubules in the brain, a theory known as Orchestrated Objective Reduction (Orch-OR), developed by the eminent physicist Sir Roger Penrose and anesthesiologist Stuart Hameroff, M.D., allows for a person’s quantum mind to exist in the multiverse, has garnered significant support. At death, the quantum information processed inside these microtubules doesn’t disappear. Instead, it is retained in the fine structure of the universe and on the edge of the event horizon of the singularity from which our universe projected; thereby allowing the information to be retrieved after death.

Skeptic’s Argument:Dr. Sam Parnia took 4 years to conduct a study of 2,060 cardiac arrest patients. Of the 330 who survived, 140 were able to be interviewed, and only 9 had a near death experience. Nine people is an absolutely tiny sample size by any stretch of the imagination, but in this and several other studies, cards bearing numbers and images were placed just above the bed, but out of site of the doctors and patients so if the patients had had an out of body experience (OBE), they would have seen the images. While many of the patients in these studies described having an out of body experience and floating above the operating table, not one in any of the studies described seeing the cards.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: While none of the 9% of NDErs saw the targets (for a variety of reasons), there was one NDE case of veridical OBE perception confirmed under scientifically controlled settings in Dr. Sam Parnia‘s AWARE study. The skeptic is correct that of the 2,060 cardiac patients in the study, only 140 survived and were well enough to have an interview. Of these 140, there were 39 who were not able to complete the second interview, mostly due to fatigue. Of the 101 patients able to interviewed, only 9 were deemed to have had an NDE (9%) and of these 9 NDErs, only two reported memories of auditory/visual awareness of the physical environment. Of these two, one was not able to follow up with an in-depth third interview due to ill health. The other patient had veridical perceptions (VPs) while in cardiac arrest:

(1) During the NDE, the unconscious patient felt quite euphoric; (2) The patient heard an automated voice saying, “Shock the patient, shock the patient;” (3) The patient rose near the ceiling and looked down on his physical body, the nurse and another man, bald and “quite a chunky fella,” who wore blue scrubs and a blue hat. The patient could tell the man was bald because of where the hat was; (4) The next day, the patient recognized the bald man who attended him during the resuscitation; (5) The medical record confirmed the use of an AED (Automated External Defibrillator) that would give the automated instructions the patient heard and the role that the identified man played during the resuscitation.

To assess the accuracy of claims of VP, 50 to 100 shelves were installed in each hospital (15 of them) near the ceiling of areas where cardiac arrest resuscitation was likely to occur. Each shelf had an image that was visible only from above the shelf. The study’s hypothesis was that the images on the shelves could potentially test the validity of VP, provided enough cases of NDEs. The study’s authors concluded that: (a) In some cases of cardiac arrest, memories of visual awareness compatible with so called out-of-body experiences (OBEs) may correspond with actual events; (b) A number of NDErs may have vivid death experiences, but do not recall them due to the effects of brain injury or sedative drugs on memory circuits; (c) The recalled VP experience surrounding death merits a genuine investigation without prejudice.

Concerning that one case of VP, it was validated and timed using auditory stimuli during cardiac arrest. Dr. Sam Parnia concluded, “This is significant, since it has often been assumed that these experiences are likely hallucinations or illusions, occurring either before the heart stops or after the heart has been successfully restarted, but not an experience corresponding with “real” events when the heart isn’t beating. In this case, consciousness and awareness appeared to occur during a three-minute period when there was no heartbeat. This is paradoxical, since the brain typically ceases functioning within 20-30 seconds of the heart stopping and doesn’t resume again until the heart has been restarted. Furthermore, the detailed recollections of visual awareness in this case were consistent with verified events.

Skeptic’s Argument: “But it gets even better. Every aspect of near-death experiences can be artificially induced in a lab.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: This is obviously not true. Only some of the aspects of near-death-like experiences can be artificially induced in a lab. Some of them are listed below. And NDEs can be triggered by a variety of catalysts other than cardiac arrest or near-death. But not every aspect of NDEs have been artificially induced in a lab:

  1. “Out-of-body-like” experiences induced by any of the skeptical methods are called illusions. This fact is admitted by skeptics, scientists, and NDE researchers alike. According to Wikipedia, an illusion is a distortion of the senses, revealing how the brain normally organizes and interprets sensory stimulation. However, OBEs during NDEs are realistic perceptions of real events and are not distortions of reality. Induced OBEs involve dissociation and illusionary autoscopic aspects.
  2. Conscious awareness doesn’t occur under anesthesia using any of the skeptics methods in the same way that conscious awareness occurs during NDEs while under anesthesia. Many NDEs occur while the NDEr is under general anesthesia at a time when any conscious experience should be impossible. While some skeptics claim these NDEs may be the result of too little anesthesia, this ignores those NDEs resulting from anesthesia overdose or having no anesthesia involved. Additionally, descriptions of a NDEs differ greatly from those people who experiences “anesthetic awareness.” And the content of NDEs occurring under general anesthesia is essentially indistinguishable from NDEs that do not occur under general anesthesia. This is more strong evidence of NDEs occurring independently from the functioning of the material brain.
  3. A “crystal-clear” level of conscious alertness during NDEs that is greater than alertness experienced in normal consciousness cannot be induced using any of the skeptics methods — even though NDEs generally occur when a person is unconscious or clinically dead. This high level of consciousness while physically unconscious is medically unexplainable. Additionally, the elements in NDEs generally follow the same consistent and logical order in all age groups and around the world, refuting the possibility of NDEs having any relation to dreams or hallucinations.
  4. None of the skeptics methods can induce a perfect “playback” of entire lifetime memories – called a “life review” — as NDEs can. Life reviews in NDEs include a replay of minute details of events previously occurring in the lives of the NDEr — even if the events were forgotten or happened before they were old enough to remember. In fact, the life review has been described as an instantaneous “reliving” of every detail of a person’s life. In some life reviews, people are shown past lives. Others are shown possible future events based upon decisions made during their NDE. The life review has been called by many NDErs to be the most transformative aspect of their experience.
  5. None of the skeptics methods can induce people to have NDEs without the distortions of time, place, body image and disorientations seen in drug induced experiences.
  6. None of the skeptics methods can induce people to have NDEs with veridical out-of-body perceptions as actual cases of NDEs can.
  7. None of the skeptics methods can induce people who are brain dead to have NDEs as actual cases of NDEs can.
  8. None of the skeptics methods can induce people born blind to see as actual cases of NDEs can.

Skeptic’s Argument: “When the brain experiences hypoxia (a decrease in oxygen), as happens to jet fighter pilots in centrifuges, feelings of euphoria, tunnel vision, hyper-vividness, clarity, and hallucinations can result.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The author of the Spiritual Development website has excellent counter-evidence and summaries of the arguments for and against the skeptical arguments against the Afterlife Hypothesis interpretation of NDEs. According to Dr. R.. Craig Hogan, “Lack of oxygen (hypoxia) causes stupor without memories of the experience. People experiencing NDEs report enhanced consciousness not stupor and they remember their NDE.” Dr. Fred Schoonmaker, a cardiologist from Denver, had by 1979 carried out investigations of over 2,000 patients who had suffered cardiac arrests, many of whom reported NDEs. His findings showed NDEs occurred when there was no deprivation of oxygen.

Michael Prescott points out how, in the textbook Irreducible Mind: Toward a Psychology for the 21st Century by Edward F. Kelly, Emily Williams Kelly et al, concerning induced hypoxia in pilots training under high g forces:

“The primary features of acceleration-induced hypoxia, however, are myoclonic convulsions (rhythmic jerking of the limbs), impaired memory for events just prior to the onset of unconsciousness, tingling in the extremities and around the mouth, confusion and disorientation upon awakening, and paralysis, symptoms that do not occur in association with NDEs. Moreover, contrary to NDEs, the visual images Whinnery reported frequently included living people, but never deceased people; and no life review or accurate out-of-body perceptions have been reported in acceleration-induced loss of consciousness.”

J. Denosky of the SpiritualTravel.org website points out how the jet fighter pilots experience “tunnel vision” as they gradually lose consciousness as a result of blood draining from their brains because of the extreme gravity forces generated during flight. Their peripheral vision darkens and blurs while the circle of vision becomes smaller as the pilot nears unconsciousness. However, the pilot still perceives the material world during this experience. The central area of vision that remains still shows the cockpit gauges and the horizon. The person having an NDE, however, perceives light at the end of a tunnel, not material reality. The experiences have in common that the individual has a circular visual field, but they differ both in what the visual field contains (image versus light), and how the visual field changes. While the jet pilot gradually sees the visual field decrease in size to a smaller and smaller circle, the NDE experiences described by those who have had the experience do not mention this gradual narrowing over time. Instead, the field starts out as a pinpoint or small circle, which may or may not increase in size during the “tunnel experience”. It generally does not decrease in size. In some cases, the light at the end of the tunnel gradually grows to engulf the individual as he or she nears the end of the tunnel. The tunnel experienced during an NDE is usually 3-dimensional and surrounds the individual while the pilot experiences a narrowing of the visual field but not a “tunnel”.

Comparisons between NDEs and hallucinations produced by an oxygen-starved brain show that the latter are chaotic and much more similar to psychotic hallucinations. Confusion, disorientation, and fear are the typical characteristics, compared with the tranquility, calm, and sense of order of a NDE. There are some features in common: a sense of well-being and power, and themes of death and dying. But people who have experienced both at different times say that there is an unmistakable difference. Hallucinations, whether deliberately drug-induced, the result of medication, or caused by oxygen deprivation, almost always take place while the subject is awake and conscious, whereas NDEs happen during unconsciousness, sometimes when the subject is so close to death that no record of brain activity is recorded on an electroencephalograph, the machine that monitors brain waves. Also, the medical conditions that take subjects to the brink of death, and to having a NDE, do not necessarily include oxygen-deprivation, or any medication. This is particularly true of accident victims. NDEs appear to occur at the moment when the threat of death occurs, not necessarily at the time, maybe hours later, when death is close enough to be starving the brain of oxygen.

Skeptic’s Argument: “Drugs such as Ketamine which interact with your NMDA receptors can induce NDE-like experiences. This is relevant because your brain contains naturally occurring neuroprotective agents that bind to same receptors and could potentially create these experiences naturally.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: In the textbook Irreducible Mind: Toward a Psychology for the 21st Century, by Edward F. Kelly, Emily Williams Kelly et al, the authors point out how unlike the vast majority of NDEs are compared to drug-induced hallucinations. Ketamine experiences are often frightening and involve bizarre imagery, and patients usually express the wish not to repeat the experience. Most ketamine users also recognize the illusory character of their experience, in contrast to the many NDE experiencers who are firmly convinced of the reality of what they experienced and its lack of resemblance to illusions or dreams. Even if ketamine experiences do resemble NDEs in some respects, many important features of NDEs, such as seeing deceased people or a revival of memories, have not been reported with ketamine. Furthermore, ketamine typically exerts its effects in an otherwise more or less normal brain, while many NDEs occur under conditions in which brain function is severely compromised. [Kelly et al, pages 380-381]

In Appendix B of his book, Proof of Heaven (a title chosen by his publishers) NDEr Dr. Eben Alexander pointed out that:

“Endogenous glutamate blockade with excitotoxicity, mimicking the hallucinatory anesthetic, ketamine (occasionally used to explain NDEs in general). I occasionally saw the effects of ketamine used as an anesthetic during the earlier part of my neurosurgical career at Harvard Medical School. The hallucinatory state it induced was most chaotic and unpleasant, and bore no resemblance whatsoever to my experience in coma.”

Skeptic’s Argument: “There’s growing evidence that the temporal lobe plays a huge role in the creating NDEs. When patients had their brains scanned after an NDE, it was discovered that they had increased levels of temporal lobe activity compared with those in a control group. That could help explain why only a small percentage of people who flat line have NDEs. When Dr. Olaf Blanke implanted electrodes into the brains of patients, he was able to trigger supernatural and out of body experiences by stimulating the temporal parietal junction.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: Dr. Blanke assumes all OBEs are illusions. And as previously mentioned, illusions are a distortion of the senses, revealing how the brain normally organizes and interprets sensory stimulation. However, OBEs during NDEs are realistic perceptions of real events and are not distortions of reality. Induced OBEs involve dissociation and illusionary autoscopic aspects. NDE researcher Dr. Melvin Morse agrees that stimulating the right temporal lobe produces OBE-like illusions, but he sees this area of the brain as the mediating bridge for spiritual experiences in general, not reductionistically interpreting NDEs as brain activity alone (Morse, 1992). Also, the characteristic emotions resulting from temporal lobe stimulation are fear, sadness, and loneliness, not the calm and love of an NDE.

Researchers, such as Dr. Bruce Greyson of the University of Virginia, say Blanke’s brain-mapping results do not entirely explain these strange reports — nor do reductionist arguments fully explain them. Greyson said Blanke’s experiments do not necessarily prove all OBEs are illusions. He said it is possible some OBEs occur in different ways than the scientists suspect. “We cannot assume from the fact that electrical stimulation of the brain can induce OBE-like illusions that all OBEs are therefore illusions.”

And while scientists may be discovering a mechanism or trigger associated with OBEs, this does not mean OBEs and NDEs are strictly produced by this mechanism. A mechanical function associated with OBEs and NDEs does not negate the idea of them being more than a mechanical function. One must not confuse what triggers OBEs with the experience itself.

Skeptic’s Argument: “Once supernatural experiences can be packaged up and commercialized, will people finally start to realize that it’s all in their heads. Or are they going to start worshiping the god-plumber Mario?” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic’s argument displays no logic and makes no sense. The reference to peoples’ subjective experiences existing “all in their heads,” whether supernatural or not, is actually a good way to describe conscious subjective experiences. Materialism is a theory which posits only matter and energy exist; and everything is composed of these materials; and all phenomena are the result of physical interactions. In other words, reality is limited to objective states of energy and matter. Applied to consciousness, materialism holds that all aspects of subjective experience is explainable purely by objective states within a physical brain. But the problem with materialism, as applied to the consciousness, is it does not distinguish between mind and brain. This explanation problem of materialism suggests there exists a metaphysical, non-physical component to subjective experiences philosophically known as “qualia“. The person who has arguably done more to support the subjective nature of consciousness is Dr. David Chalmers, the distinguished Professor of Philosophy and Director of the Centre for Consciousness in Australia, who specializes in the area of philosophy of mind and philosophy of language.

Chalmers defined this explanatory problem of materialism as the “hard problem of consciousness.” Chalmers illustrated this problem using the thought experiment of a “brain in a vat” which is similar to the “dream argument.” Both experiments show the brain’s ability to create simulated realities during REM sleep meaning there is a statistical likelihood of our own reality being simulated. Lucid dreams also supports this. There is also a long philosophical and scientific history to the underlying thesis of reality being an illusion which is centered on the assumption we do not experience the environment itself but rather a projection of it created by our own minds. A serious academic debate within the field of transhumanism centers around a related argument called the “simulation argument” which proposes reality to be a simulation and our current paradigm of reality to be an illusion. Physicists have even developed a scientific experiment to determine if our universe is a computer simulation. Also, as previously mentioned, several interpretations of quantum mechanics, such as the Holographic Principle, suggests our perception of reality to be holographically an illusion. So although the skeptic ignorantly associated peoples’ subjective experiences, such as NDEs (which have also proved to be objective experiences as well), with “worshiping the god-plumber Mario” as being “all in their heads”, his statement is not totally false. After all, the so-called “god-plumber Mario” and the “golden-god C-3PO” all originated from the skeptic’s own mind and subjective experience.

Skeptic’s Argument: “Finally, a near-death experience does not mean the person died. It means that they came close.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The term “near-death experience” is really a misnomer. In a National Geographic article on the reversibility of death, it mentions NDE expert Dr. Sam Parnia who wrote In his book Erasing Death that death is:

“[Death is] a process, not a moment. It’s a whole-body stroke, in which the heart stops beating but the organs don’t die immediately.” In fact, they might hang on intact for quite a while, which means that “for a significant period of time after death, death is in fact fully reversible.” Parnia continues by saying that “under proper conditions — when the body temperature is lowered, chest compression is regulated for depth and tempo, and oxygen is reintroduced slowly to avoid injuring tissue — some patients can be brought back from the dead after hours without a heartbeat, often with no long-term consequences.”

This comment by Dr. Parnia shows the skeptic is badly misinformed.

Skeptic’s Argument: “In fact, it’s a common misconception that a flat EEG indicates complete and total brain death. An EEG only measures electrical activity on the outer layers of the brain – not activity deep inside.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: This is true, but its irrelevant. On his Skeptiko website, Alex Tsakiris discusses EEG data from patients with NDEs with EEG expert and neurologist Dr. John Greenfield from the University of Toledo, author of Reading EEGs: A Practical Approach. Tsakiris writes: “For NDE skeptics, medical evidence of a flat EEG during an OBE has always been a stumbling block. After all, a brain dead patient can’t hallucinate. But, does a flat EEG really mean no brain activity? NDE doubters have claimed activity deep inside the brain, beyond the reach of EEG instruments, must account for the complex ‘realer than real’ experiences reported by those who briefly pass into the afterlife. Now, University of Toledo Neuroscience researcher, and EEG expert, Dr. John Greenfield explains why this claim doesn’t hold up.”

Dr. Greenfield states, “It’s very unlikely that a hypoperfused brain (someone with no blood flow to the brain), with no evidence of electrical activity could generate NDEs. Human studies as well as animal studies have typically shown very little brain perfusion (blood flow) or glucose utilization when the EEG is flat. There are deep brain areas involved in generating memories that might still operate at some very reduced level during cardiac arrest, but of course any subcortically generated activity can’t be brought to consciousness without at least one functioning cerebral hemisphere. So even if there were some way that NDEs were generated during the hypoxic state (while the brain is shut off from oxygen), you would not experience them until reperfusion (blood flow) allowed you to dream them or wake up and talk about them.”

Also, the measurement of the EEG is irrelevant when it comes to the unconscious state of those having NDEs. According to Dr. Peter Fenwick, a neuropsychiatrist and the leading authority in Britain concerning NDEs, the unconscious state of the brain during an NDE is when:

“The brain isn’t functioning. It’s not there. It’s abnormal. But, yet, it can produce these very clear experiences (NDEs) … an unconscious state is when the brain ceases to function. For example, if you faint, you fall to the floor, you don’t know what’s happening and the brain isn’t working. The memory systems are particularly sensitive to unconsciousness. So, you won’t remember anything. But, yet, after one of these experiences (an NDE), you come out with clear, lucid memories … This is a real puzzle for science. I have not yet seen any good scientific explanation which can explain that fact.”

And this is why NDE researchers conclude that materialistic theories of NDEs involving brain chemistry alone fall short of the mark.

Skeptic’s Argument: “Our brains do weird things – like hallucinate and have odd dreams. I’m not saying an NDE is the same as a dream, but both are arbitrary, unpredictable, and only occur a small percentage of the time. And neither one is proof of anything other than that our brains work in strange ways. Hell, if near death experiences are evidence of Lord Shiva, then dreams are evidence that I’m a super saiyan, a time lord, and batman.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: Here the skeptic is relying upon several fallacies. He uses a fallacy in informal logic by claiming that because (A) “brains do weird things” is true for dreams; therefore (B) “brains do weird things” is true for NDEs. Then he extends his fallacy even further by claiming that because (A) applies to (C) the skeptic’s dreams of being Batman; therefore (B) applies to (D) NDEs involving Lord Shiva. The skeptic also appeals to another fallacy in informal logic called the argument from ignorance. He assumes his claim that NDEs only prove our brains work in strange ways is true simply because his claim that brains work in strange ways has not yet been proven false. But as you have already read in this article, from the evidence presented, explanations for NDEs using brain anomalies have been debunked. Also here. And also here. The skeptic’s appeal to ignorance of brain functions are an attempt to shift the burden of proof of his claim to opponents of his argument. But the burden of proof belongs to him alone. The skeptic also appeals to the logical fallacy argument from personal incredulity. He states that because having an NDE of Lord Shiva is so incredible or unimaginable, it by necessity must be wrong. But for people in India who believe in Lord Shiva and who have a cultural background in Hinduism, it is not incredible or unimaginable for them to have an NDE of Lord Shiva.

Skeptic’s Argument: “If near death experiences were evidence of life after death, the evidence would be undeniable and all around us.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: True. And the evidence is undeniable and all around us. While it may be impossible to ever prove life after death using the scientific method, there is a mountain of evidence supporting life after death as this article and this website shows.

Skeptic’s Argument: “100% of people who flatline would have NDEs, and would return with the same vision of heaven.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic’s argument defies basic logic. There is no reason to assume everyone who flatlines should have an NDE — no more than it is reasonable to assume everyone who dreams should be dreaming the same dream. Nor should we assume everyone who goes to France should have the exact same experience.

Skeptic’s Argument: “They would know things they couldn’t possibly otherwise know.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: Yes, we have verified (veridical) OBE perceptions during NDEs where people witness real events and conversations far removed from their physical body which they could not have witnessed any other way or otherwise known about.

Skeptic’s Argument: “And we’d have a lot more than just anecdotes.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: Yes, we do. Veridical OBE perception in NDEs reported under laboratory conditions are more than mere anecdotes. These can be found in various NDE studies such as the Atlanta Study, the Dutch Study, and the AWARE Study.

Skeptic’s Argument:: “Instead only a fraction of the people who are resuscitated have NDEs.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: This argument has already been debunked above. We know many people have NDEs; but for various reasons do not remember them. There is also no reason to assume everyone near-death must have an NDE.

Skeptic’s Argument: “Their experiences are cultural and all over the place.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: This is true. If all NDEs were completely identical, then the “brain anomaly” theories that NDEs are somehow “hard-wired” in the brain would be more likely.

Skeptic’s Argument: “And the feelings that they experience are replicable in the lab by messing with very specific brain regions.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: Not true. The OBEs induced in the lab are not comparable to the life-changing aftereffects of NDEs.

Skeptic’s Argument: “We have no valid evidence that NDEs are proof of life after death – evidence that should be there if there if that was indeed the case.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: Once again, the skeptic confuses “evidence” with “proof“.

Skeptic’s Argument: “Now I know some of you are bummed by this, hoping for some type of eternal life after death. If that’s the case, check out my video ‘Why is Heaven Bad?'” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic assumes that because there is no proof of heaven, some people might be “bummed” by this fact (and it is a fact for some people). He even provides his possibly “bummed” out audience a video explaining why belief in heaven is bad. And if you watch the skeptic’s silly video “Why is Heaven Bad?” you will see he makes even more uniformed arguments from ignorance. But to quote Socrates:

“To fear death is nothing other than to think oneself wise when one is not. For it is to think one knows what one does not know. No one knows whether death may not even turn out to be one of the greatest blessings of human beings. And yet people fear it as if they knew for certain it is the greatest evil.” (Socrates)

So the skeptic assumes that opponents to his arguments (who he claims are motivated by “proof” of life after death), in the absence of such proof, would cause them to be “bummed”. But the educated person knows the difference between evidence and proof. But as Socrates wisely points out, to be “bummed” by death is to think oneself wise when one is not. The skeptic appears to be measuring his opponents imaginary “bummed” reaction according to his own standard of psychological reaction rather than his opponents’ reaction. His assumption that supporters of the Afterlife Hypothesis would be disappointed by any skeptical arguments against it is assuming he is far too wise when he is not.

Skeptic’s Argument: “But disregarding wishful thinking, there’s still a bright side. If this life is all there is, then there’s no hell afterwards. If there’s no hell, there are no demons. Also, if there’s no afterlife, then there’s no angry spirits or ghosts lingering on long after they’re dead haunting houses and old buildings. That’s a good thing. Because that’s one less thing you have to be afraid of.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic’s evaluation of the cost-benefit analysis of believing in life after death is obviously flawed. As previously mentioned, the skeptic appears to project his own fear of death and his own frightening psychological reaction to life after death upon the opponents of his arguments. His fear is obviously manifested in fundamental religious terms (eternal damnation, hell and demons) and Hollywood horror movies (haunting ghost houses) which have no basis in NDE studies or modern parapsychology. The benefit of life after death without the skeptic’s unfounded fears is obvious: if we assume life after death is very similar to life on earth (NDEs suggest this is true), then who would not want the opportunity to live more of life? Unless you want to commit suicide, I submit that anyone who accepts the skeptic’s flawed cost-benefit analysis of life after death, anyone who denies that the benefit of a possible life after death outweighs whatever costs, therefore sees no benefit in the life they are currently living. Because if life after death is basically an extension of this life — and the benefits of this life outweigh the costs of living — then the same is true of life after death. And the evidence from NDE studies shows the cost-benefit analysis of a possible afterlife certainly weighs much in favor toward its abundant benefits. We all are aware of the cost-benefit of no life after death which is nothing gained, nothing ventured (lost).

Skeptic’s Argument: “These experiences aren’t meaningless. They show us the value and brevity of life. Life is short. Which is what makes it so precious. You don’t have to live a life in fear of hell, but do live it with fervor, love, and curiosity because it’s probably all you’ve got. And that’s ok. Because while we’re here, we’ve got each other.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: NDEs do not show us that life is brief. On the contrary, NDEs suggest that life continues on after death. Those who have NDEs are almost universally convinced they are an afterlife experience and that an afterlife exists. While it is true that NDEs are not meaningless, it is not true that only by accepting the skeptic’s claim of not fearing and not accepting the idea of an afterlife can people live life with fervor, love and curiosity. The skeptic’s claim of this life probably being all we’ve got, may or may not be true, but it is not “OK” merely because “we’ve got each other.” It has to be admitted by every intelligent person, there is much more to life than holding hands and singing, “Kumbaya.”

Skeptic’s Argument: “Massive thank you to all of my incredible patrons. You guys are what make this show possible. I couldn’t do it without you. If you want to support the show and get some cool perks in the process. Head to Patreon.com/holykoolaid. Or you can donate through PayPal or Bitcoin. Make the most of this short but oh so beautiful life, and don’t Drink the Koolaid.” (Skeptic in the video)

Counter-Argument: The skeptic is seeking financial gain for his NDE hoax video and fraud. He is doing the exact same thing that he condemned the boy who had a hoax NDE was doing with his hoax NDE book he made money from. I guess this makes the skeptic a hypocrite as well as a fraud.

4. NDERF Survey Methodology Minimizing the Risk of Falsified Accounts

The following is Dr. Jeffrey Long’s NDERF.org Statement of Survey Methodology Minimizing the Risk of Falsified Accounts.

  1. The survey on NDERF.org is very long with over 150 questions that require a response before the survey can be submitted. The survey length is a substantial disincentive to filling it out falsely or as a “joke”.
  2. Those who take the NDERF survey receive no payment of any kind.
  3. Experiences are virtually always posted anonymously. There are relatively rare experiencers who are authors and would like their full name posted. No falsified NDE has ever been associated with a request to post their full name. There has been no personal recognition to incentivize sharing false accounts.
  4. In the 18 year history of NDERF, we had about four falsified NDE accounts posted on NDERF.org and later found to be falsified. Given that we have over 4,000 NDEs posted that is about one in a thousand NDEs that have been posted.
  5. The NDERF website has about 90,000 unique visitors a month from all around the world. This greatly reduces the risk that any accounts posted are plagiarized. With so many readers, any plagiarized account would likely be recognized by NDERF readers and we would be notified. This happened once in the history of NDERF. The plagiarized NDE was not shared on the NDERF survey but by a personal interview.
  6. My background as a physician helps me to identify NDEs that describe medical events that seem implausible.
  7. It is rare that experiences are submitted as a “joke” on the NDERF survey, and they can be easily identified and not posted. Years ago there were two NDEs shared sequentially that described, among other fanciful things, encountering Pamela Anderson in their “experiences”. These are recognized as “joke” accounts when submitted to NDERF as quickly as they would be recognized as “joke” accounts that are shared personally. Such “joke” submissions to NDERF average about one every few years.
  8. My experience in reviewing over 4,000 NDEs and over 10,000 experiences of all types helps me to recognize experiences which may be falsified. The experiences at higher risk of being falsified are those where the contributors have a financial incentive in their experience. This includes those who have written books about their experiences. It also includes those whose vocation, such as channelers or alternative medical healers, may benefit in gaining credibility in the view of their clients if they had a particular experience (especially an NDE).

A rare falsified NDE that slips through the filters is most harmful if it changes our understanding of NDEs as a whole. It is almost inconceivable that enough falsified NDEs would be shared that a false understanding about any aspect of NDE as a whole results. After all, what is real is consistently observed.

Finally, and most importantly, I continue to have confidence that the overwhelming majority of those sharing NDEs and related experiences will share them with integrity.

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A Critique of Mary Baxter’s Book “A Divine Revelation of Hell”

Mary K. Baxter (www.divinerevelations.info) is a Pentecostal minister who wrote a controversial book called A Divine Revelation of Hell where she makes many problematic claims and errors. One of the most problematic claims of hers is of Jesus appearing to her for 30 straight days while in prayer to give her guided tours of hell followed by 10 straight days of Jesus giving her guided tours of heaven. But anyone familiar with near-death experiences (NDEs) will know immediately these were not NDEs she experienced. Also, according to NDE and religious studies expert Dr. Ken R. Vincent, having 40 straight days of this type of religious / mystical / spiritual experience is virtually unheard of in the literature. Most people have one or two mystical experiences in a whole lifetime. Those who have multiple mystical experiences have them over time. The only person Dr. Vincent can recall as having a series of mystical experiences is Julian of Norwich who in 1373 had 16 visions in a 12-hour period.

Also, while I was writing this critique of Baxter’s book, I encountered serious inconsistencies in her testimony between the first edition of her book on hell (the red colored book on the right) and the second edition of her book on hell (the blue and black book below the first edition). Most of the problematic claims and errors in the first edition of her book were corrected and covered up in the second edition. I expose these inconsistent corrections and cover-ups as well. This review also contains satirical images, such as the image on the upper left, which I use to make important points.

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Table of Contents

  1. Jesus’ “smell test” for recognizing false testimonies
  2. Baxter claims God desperately needs her testimony to save people from going to hell
  3. Baxter claims Jesus commands us to believe Baxter’s book or go to hell
  4. Baxter plagiarized many Bible verses and a parable of Jesus
  5. Baxter plagiarized from the Book of Revelation
  6. Baxter changed Jesus’ words significantly in the 2nd edition of her book
  7. Baxter covered up her contradictions about Jesus in the 2nd edition of her book
  8. Baxter’s ridiculous, bizarre, unusual and unjust reasons for people being in hell
  9. Baxter’s hilarious and unbelievable depictions of hell
  10. Baxter’s problem of everyone in her book speaking exactly like her
  11. Baxter’s problem of everyone in her book promoting her problematic theology
  12. Baxter’s book as a counter to Raymond Moody’s book “Life After Life”
    a. Reasons why Baxter may have wanted to counter Moody’s book
    b. Baxter’s OBEs resemble those in Moody’s book but have severe flaws
    c. Baxter’s “NDE tunnels” resemble those in Moody’s book but have severe flaws
    d. Baxter’s “afterlife movie screens” resemble those in Moody’s book but have severe flaws
  13. Conclusion

1. Jesus’ “smell test” for recognizing false testimonies

How does one distinguish between true and false spiritual experiences? Are there any guidelines? Fortunately for Christians, Jesus mentioned a type of “smell test”. According to the gospels, Jesus was accused by religious leaders of performing miracles by the power of Satan. Jesus’ reply to his accusers was: “A tree is recognized by its fruit” (Matthew 12:33). Jesus was metaphorically referring to people as “trees” and their behavior, or works, as “fruit”. Earlier in the Book of Matthew, Jesus warned his followers about false testimony from false prophets:

“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.” (Matthew 7:15-18)

In the above verse, Jesus explained how the works (“fruit”) produced from someone claiming to be a prophet (a “tree”), whether the fruit is good or bad (or rotten), determines whether that prophet is a true prophet (a good “tree”) or a false prophet (a bad “tree”). The works or “fruit” of the Holy Spirit was described by the Apostle Paul: “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control” (Galatians 5:22-23).

So we judge a person’s works (“fruit”) by comparing them to the “fruit” of the Holy Spirit (love, joy, peace, etc.). “Good” people, like good trees, don’t habitually bear “bad fruit” — say or do bad things. “Bad” people, like bad trees, don’t habitually bear “good fruit” — say or do good things (love, joy, peace, etc.). This is a profound insight and an excellent test for judging Baxter’s testimony. From this point on, I will refer to this test as “Jesus’ Smell Test.” In evaluating Baxter’s testimony, I have applied Jesus’ Smell Test extensively and have come to this conclusion – Baxter’s book doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test at all on many levels. And because of this, I conclude Baxter to be a false prophet. Baxter always depicts Jesus as an uncaring, cold, judgmental, often angry, dogmatic, legalistic, walking “King James Bible” verse spouting, person who is able – but unwilling – to help repentant people being tortured in hell who are desperately crying out to him for help. Baxter’s book is filled with blood-curdling horror, evil, fear, sickening imagery, and is grossly lacking any of the fruits of the Holy Spirit. Practically everything coming from Jesus’ mouth in her book severely lacks any of the fruits of the Holy Spirit. Her book’s depiction of Jesus is highly dishonoring to the Christ known in the Bible and numerous NDE testimonies.

2. Baxter claims God desperately needs her testimony to save people from going to hell

Baxter claims Jesus told her she was chosen by God for a special commission to help in God’s plan of salvation. But there are problems with this claim:

Baxter claims Jesus said she was chosen by God to “to write and make a record” of “the reality of hell” so that “many may be saved, many will repent of their evil ways before it is too late” (p.10).

Baxter said Jesus told her, “it was for this purpose” she was born (p.12).

In other words, God needs her for people to hear the gospel.

But her claim of being chosen to tell the world that “hell is real” assumes the Bible doesn’t already contain the message of the reality of hell.

Her claim also assumes her commission to testify about the reality of hell is somehow a new revelation of God.

Baxter’s book assumes the Bible is an insufficient revelation from God and that her book is a complete revelation. Baxter constantly portrays how urgently God and Jesus needs her testimony to save humanity (p.13) which assumes the Bible is not sufficient enough to accomplish this.

Baxter claims her book has “God’s anointing.” In the back cover of the 1st edition of her book, Baxter’s pastor wrote how: “Unlike other books, I believe that the Holy Spirit has brought this writing into being for time and eternity.. I believe that God’s anointing will rest upon this book.” But for many Christians, referring to any book other than the Bible in this manner would cause them to view these statements as blasphemy and Baxter’s book as unscriptural. This becomes crystal clear when one evaluates all the evidence in this article.

Baxter constantly portrays Jesus as desperately needing her testimony to save “his people” from going to hell. The following reasons are why this is false:

Baxter claims Jesus told her, “Some of my people do not believe that hell is real. You have been chosen by me to reveal these truths to them” (p.19).

According to Baxter, Jesus needs her testimony to “turn many to righteousness” and “to bring the lost out of darkness and into the light of the gospel of Jesus Christ” (p.10). In other words, Jesus needs her testimony for people to believe the gospel.

Baxter’s message that “hell is real” is not a new revelation of God – especially because so much of her testimony is erroneous and doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test.

According to Baxter, Jesus told her, “Remember to tell the people of earth that hell is real. Millions of lost souls are here, and more are coming every day!” (p.28). But as stated earlier, Baxter would never have known for sure hell was real unless she experienced it herself. How, then, is anyone else expected to know for sure hell is real unless they experienced what Baxter experienced for themselves? This contradiction falsifies Baxter’s commission. See below.

So Baxter’s commission to warn people about hell won’t work because people must experience hell themselves to believe hell is real.

3. Baxter claims Jesus commands us to believe Baxter’s book or go to hell

In her book, Baxter described Jesus and “the Creator” of the universe speaking directly to the reader endorsing her book:

God: “Serve Me, the Creator, for I give life, not death. Arise from your evil and call upon Me, and I will heal and deliver you. The things you read in this book are true, and they will soon come to pass.” (p.105).

Jesus: “What I (Jesus) have shown you, I want you to tell the world. Tell them hell is real. Tell them this report is real.” (p.128).

These supposed divine endorsements of Baxter’s book are problematic. Here’s why:

Many Christians would find it blasphemous for an author to claim that God has personally endorsed their book as truth when there is only one book that Christians can say God endorses and that is the Bible.

For God to endorse any book other than the Bible is unusual and bizarre to Christians. This is especially true when you consider all the errors in Baxter’s book and how it doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test.

God has never specifically endorsed any of the books of the Bible, so why should we believe God endorsed her book?

Baxter claims the Creator of the universe endorsed her book in 1976. But this contradicts what Baxter claims the Creator said that “the things” in Baxter’s book “will soon come to pass” which proves this prophecy to be a false prophecy. This should be a lesson to anyone trying to set a date for the Lord’s return which only the Father in heaven knows (Mark 13:32).

Baxter Claims We Must Believe Her or Go To Hell

At one point in her book, Baxter describes Jesus speaking directly to the reader and giving a warning about Baxter’s “report” (book):

Jesus: “I love you and do not desire that you should be lost. Believe this report and live. Choose you this day whom you will serve” (p.145).

So, according to Baxter, Jesus now demands that we accept Baxter’s book and the gospel to be saved.

In another instance in her book, Baxter describes Jesus speaking directly to the reader warning them to listen to “his prophetess” (Baxter) or be cursed:

Jesus: “You have not hearkened to the words of my servants, the prophet and the prophetess. Curses instead of blessing have come upon you” (p.101).

Judging from the large number of prophecies Baxter claims to make in her book, it is obvious she considers herself to be “a prophetess”. And judging from the supposed words Baxter claims Jesus said that if we don’t “hearken” to Baxter’s words we will be cursed, it is evident that Baxter is a false prophetess because her words certainly doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test.

The King James English words “hearken” is translated in modern English as “hear”. It would be really bizarre if Jesus actually talked this way considering he actually spoke the Aramaic language in life. In near-death experiences, communication is telepathic and no languages are used in the afterlife.

Serious Errors In Baxter’s Book Proving God Couldn’t Have Said It Was True

It took 17 years for Baxter to publish her book. Baxter claims God and Jesus desperately needed her to write a book about her supposed visits to hell to save souls from hell “before it is too late”. But Baxter’s book was released in 1993 which is 17 years after her supposed visits to hell in 1976. So despite Baxter’s claim of God and Jesus desperately needing her testimony to save people, the fact that her book took so long to be published and released shows a severe lack of urgency on her part and evidence her book was not needed by God or Jesus.

Baxter accidentally mentioned the exact same event twice on two separate days. On pages 30-31, Baxter mentioned she learned how “imps” and “devils” would leave hell through tunnels to do Satan’s bidding on the earth. But then on a different day, on page 48, she wrote the same thing – of learning how “imps” and “devils” would leave hell through tunnels to do Satan’s bidding on the earth.

Baxter claims to have seen “baby” Cherubim (angels) kissing the God’s face. On page 151 of her book, Baxter claims to have seen God on His throne which “was filled with baby cherubim, singing and kissing the Lord upon His face, His hands and His feet”. But this cannot be true because the Bible always describes cherubim as mature angels having a number of wing pairs, and four faces (one human). It is clear she plagiarized this idea from traditional Christian medieval art, when cherubim became associated with the “putto” and the Roman deity Cupid, resulting in the misconception that cherubim are small and plump winged boys. A putto is a Roman mythological figure in a work of art depicted as a chubby male child, usually nude and sometimes winged in form and are secular and represent non-religious passion. In Roman mythology, Cupid is the god of desire, erotic love, attraction and affection.

Baxter disobeyed God by removing Bible verses which God supposedly told her to include in her book. The Bible references listed in the back of the 1st edition of her book (pages 162-171) were deleted in the 2nd edition of her book. Baxter then tried to cover-up the evidence by deleted her words mentioning how God wanted the Bible references to be put there in the first place. Because Baxter mentioned how God wanted her to put these references in the 1st edition of her book, it made me wonder why she decided not to put the references in her 2nd edition as well. My theory is she is trying to cover-up evidence in the 2nd edition of her plagiarizing Bible verses. Below is some of the evidence:

1st Edition:  “Jesus said, ‘…Tell them that I will keep them from evil if they put their trust in me.’ Readers, please use the Bible references in the back of this book. God told me to put them there” (p.104).

2nd Edition:  “Jesus said, ‘…Tell them that I will keep them from evil if they put their trust in me.’ Readers, please use the Bible references in the back of this book. God told me to put them there” (p.146).

4. Baxter plagiarized many Bible verses and a parable of Jesus

Baxter claims Jesus gave her a special commission to “prepare the saints for his return” (p.13). But there are several problems with this. Baxter plagiarized from the Bible the same commission John the Baptist was given in preparing the saints for the coming of Christ. Here is the evidence:

John the Baptist: “…you will go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways” (Luke 1:76b).
Mary Baxter: “I wish to give you a revelation to prepare the saints for my return” (p.13)

John the Baptist: “And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Highest; for you will go before the face of the Lord” (Luke 1:76).
Mary Baxter: “For this purpose you were born, to write and tell what I have shown and told you” (p.12).

John the Baptist: “To give knowledge of salvation to His people” (Luke 1:77).
Mary Baxter: “The book you write will save many souls from hell” (p.17).

John the Baptist: “To give light to those who sit in darkness” (Luke 1:79).
Mary Baxter: “I will manifest myself to you to bring people out of darkness into light” (p.10).

John the Baptist: “To hearken to the words of my servants the prophets, whom I sent unto you, both rising up early, and sending them, but ye have not hearkened” (Jeremiah 26:5).
Mary Baxter: “You have not hearkened to the words of my servants, the prophet and the prophetess” (p.101)

John the Baptist: A MESSAGE OF RECONCILIATION: “And he will turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God… to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord” (Luke 1:16-17). “This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe” (John 1:7). “Make straight the way of the Lord'” (John 1:23).
Mary Baxter: A MESSAGE OF MARY BAXTER’S OWN FEAR: “I was trembling with fright because of the danger and fear around us” (p.20). “Fear gripped my soul, and death took hold of me” (p.80). “Fear — the most awesome fear — gripped my soul” (p.81). “A fear like I had never felt before came over me” (p.83). “An enormous fear gripped my soul each time I remembered what happened to me there” (p.86). “Tell them that the fearful and unbelieving will have their part in the lake of fire” (p.89). “”And I was so afraid of having to go back to hell that I was fearful to even have Jesus near me sometimes” (p.137).

Notice that Baxter says she was “so afraid of having to go back to hell” that she was “fearful to even have Jesus near me sometimes” (p.137). Baxter’s statement of being afraid of Jesus disqualifies her entire testimony in my opinion. A multitude of NDEs involving Jesus shows how those in his presence are overwhelmed with the amount of love, peace, comfort, strength he provides. Baxter’s claim of being fearful of Jesus only shows she was never in his presence. According to the Bible, there is no fear in love (1 John 4:18) because fear is a “bad fruit” which doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test. The fact is that Baxter’s book contains the word “fear” and all its derivatives a total of 51 times. On page 129 in her book, Baxter states: “What you are about to read will frighten you! I pray it will frighten you enough to make you a believer.” Has Baxter revealed her ulterior motive for writing her obvious work of fiction? I believe so. On page 89 in her book, Baxter contradicts her own fear-mongering when she claims “the fearful” will “have their part in the Lake of Fire.

Baxter arrogantly believes she is thee prophet preparing the saints for Jesus second coming in the same manner as John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus at his first appearance. Baxter repeatedly claims God has anointed her with the gift of prophecy (p.100-103, 144, 149-156). But judging from the contents of her book, Baxter is only preparing the way for fear — all of which doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test. For this reason, Baxter’s claim of visiting hell to prepare the way for Christ’s return does not ring true.

Other Indications of Baxter’s “Messiah Complex”

Baxter constantly mentions having an obsession to save people from hell many times in her book (p.10, 12, 14, 17, 36, 46, 50, 59, 86, 99, 129, 133, 134, 156).

Baxter repeatedly pleads for the reader to believe her (p.15, 47, 73, 89, 128, 129, 145).

Baxter constantly and self-righteously begs the reader to repent of their sins (p.28, 34, 36, 44, 46, 47, 49, 55, 59, 60, 73, 75, 107, 113, 129, 137). Baxter used the word “repent” a total of 77 times in her book.

Baxter boasted how she was terrified in hell, then added, “but I knew I had to go on to save souls” (p.86).

Baxter displays delusions of grandeur or self-righteousness when she described how she fell asleep “praying for the salvation of all mankind” (p.127) as if she really believed God would answer such a prayer.

Baxter displays more delusions of a Messiah complex when she prayed, “O Lord, help me to warn the people. Give me power to stop hell from enlarging itself” (p.106) as if God would grant her such power.

In obvious attempts of displays of self-importance, Baxter mentions many times how she was supposedly privy to secret information from Jesus of which Jesus told her not to divulge to the reader (p.73, 87, 103, 108, 121).

During her entire tour of hell with Jesus, Baxter repeatedly portrays herself as being more compassionate than Jesus toward the lost people being tortured in hell. Baxter describes herself in a constant condition of sadness and tears, while depicting Jesus as indifferent toward those burning eternally in hell. None of which passes Jesus’ Smell Test.

Baxter Has Jesus Misquote a Plagiarized Bible Verse From Paul

In Chapter 17 of her book named “War in Heaven”, Baxter describes a ridiculous vision where she was high above the earth watching “witches, wizards, sorcerers, evil princes and powers of the air” come flying out of hell and reeking havoc on earth. Baxter claims she told Jesus the vision was “too awful to behold.” Baxter then has Jesus misquote a plagiarized Bible verse from Paul’s epistle to Ephesians::

Jesus: “Put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand” (p.118).

Notice how using the word “stand” makes the sentence above nonsensical. Here is the correct Bible verse:

Bible: “Take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand” (Ephesians 6:13, New King James Version).

Bible: “Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and, having done all, to stand.” (Ephesians 6:13, World English Bible).

For Baxter to put words in Jesus’ mouth, especially having him mis-plagiarizing Paul in this manner, should raise a red flag to all Bible-believing Christians.

Baxter Plagiarized One of Jesus’ Parables in the Bible

In her book, Baxter described an event in hell (p.23) which was obviously plagiarized from Jesus’ parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man (Luke 16:19-31) because of the number of word-for-word similarities to the parable. Below is the parable itself followed by a comparison of the parts of the parable Baxter plagiarized for her testimony. The phrases with a [bracketed number] assigned to them are the phrases in the parable Baxter plagiarized.

The Parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man (Luke 16:19-31)

[Jesus said to his disciples:] “There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’

“But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’

[1] “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’

[2] “Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’

“And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’

[3] “But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, [4] neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.'” (Luke 16:19-31)

The phrase “this place of torment” in the parable above is a special phrase Baxter plagiarizes because it appears in the dialogue of 5 people in a total of 7 times in her book. However, she didn’t use the phrase in her plagiarized event which is curious because it shows she appears to be cautious in her plagiarism. Below is the comparison between the parts of Baxter’s testimony and the parts of Jesus’ parable she plagiarized. The underlined words are plagiarized words of particular interest.

Verses From Lazarus and the Rich Man That Baxter Plagiarized

Bible: [1] “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him (Lazarus) to my father’s house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.” (Luke 16:27-28)

Baxter: The lost person said, “Lord, some of my people are coming here, for they also will not repent. Please, Lord, let me go tell them that they must repent of their sins while they are still on earth. I do not want them to come here.” (p.23).

Bible: [2] “Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.'” (Luke 16:29)

Baxter: Jesus said to him, “They have preachers, teachers, elders – all ministering the gospel. they will tell them. They also have the advantages of the modern communications systems and many other ways to learn of me. I sent workers to them that they might believe and be saved.” (p.23).

Bible: [3] “But he (Abraham) said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets…'” (Luke 16:31).

Baxter: Jesus said to him, “If they will not believe when they hear the gospel …” (p.23).

Bible: [4] “neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead” (Luke 16:31).

Baxter: “neither will they be persuaded though one rises from the dead.” (p.23).

Notice how Baxter mis-plagiarized Luke 16:31 in [4] by using the word “rises” instead of “rise.”

Baxter’s putting words from the King James Bible into Jesus’ mouth also doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test.

Baxter’s Plagiarism of Jesus’ Parable Created a Serious Contradiction

By plagiarizing Jesus’ parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man (Luke 16:19-31), Baxter contradicted herself.

According to Baxter’s testimony, Jesus supposedly told her that if people don’t believe teachers and ministers, they won’t believe the gospel even if someone comes back from the dead (p.23).

But if Jesus actually said this to Baxter, it contradicts the commission he supposedly gave to Baxter which is to come back from the dead (hell) and give a testimony to the world about it (p.13).

How then will anyone believe her if no one will believe even if someone comes back from the dead?

5. Baxter plagiarized from the Book of Revelation

Much of Baxter’s book concerning prophecy was plagiarized from the Book of Revelation in the following ways:

Baxter plagiarized Book of Revelation symbolism (p.59, 63, 65, 74, 79, 89, 90-94, 97-98, 100, 117, 122-126, 140, 143-145, 153).

Baxter plagiarized Book of Revelation phrases (p.62, 64, 73, 105, 116, 147).

Baxter plagiarized Book of Revelation entire verses (p.97, 105).

Baxter claimed Jesus appeared to her and give her a special commission (p.10, 12, 13, 156). But her description of it is suspiciously similar to John’s description of his encounter with Christ in the Book of Revelation. Here is a comparison:

John of Revelation: “…was in the Spirit” (Revelation 1:10).
Mary Baxter: “…was praying in the Spirit” (p.13)

John of Revelation: “His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength” (Revelation 1:16).
Mary Baxter: “A brilliant light illuminated the room” (p.13).

John of Revelation:I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last” (Revelation 22:13).
Mary Baxter:I AM That I AM, [1] and there is none beside me” [2].
[1] Exodus 3:14; [2] Isaiah 44:6

John of Revelation: “What you see, write in a book” (Revelation 1:11).
Mary Baxter: “I want you to write a book and tell of the visions and of the things I reveal to you” (p.13)

John of Revelation:These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness” (Revelation 3:14).
Mary Baxter: “For these things are Faithful and True” (p.12).

John of Revelation:Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this” (Revelation 1:19).
Mary Baxter:Make a record of these things, which were and are and are to come” (p.13).

John of Revelation: “I fell at his feet as dead” (Revelation 1:17).
Mary Baxter: “A sweet and wonderful feeling came over me” (p.13)

As you can see, Baxter’s testimony above is remarkably similar to that of John the Revelator. The main difference is how John fainted and fell at Jesus’ feet “as though dead” when he saw the risen Christ in all his glory. On the other hand, Baxter had a “sweet and wonderful feeling.” Baxter’s relatively weak response to the risen Christ is enough compelling evidence of how her testimony is not true and doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test. In fact, much of Baxter’s book concerning prophecy is remarkably similar to the Book of Revelation and her own unusual interpretation of it. But the real question is whether or not God really needs another Book of Revelation? The answer can be found by examining all the errors and problems found in her testimony proving it cannot be of God.

In Chapter 13 (1st edition), Baxter claims Jesus gave her a vision of the End Times while they were in hell. But her “vision” is suspiciously similar to the Book of Revelation which shows evidence of Baxter plagiarizing from the Book of Revelation; but with serious flaws. One of the plagiarized phrases of the Book of Revelation she deleted from the 2nd edition of her book is “for a season”. Perhaps she did this to not make her plagiarism so obvious. Here is the evidence:

Bible: An angel bound Satan and threw him into the bottomless pit where he will remain for “a thousand years.” When the thousand years is over, Satan will be let loose upon the earth “for a little season” in one last attempt to deceive the world (Revelation 20:1-3).

Baxter: The man in front of the door to the bottomless pit “looked to be a thousand years old.” Baxter then told Jesus, “I’ll be glad when Satan is cast into the bottomless pit and all these evil things stop for a season” (p.98).

Baxter’s Suspicious Deletion of the Plagiarized Phrase “for a season”

1st Edition: “I’ll be glad when Satan is cast into the bottomless pit and all these evil things stop for a season” (p.98).

2nd Edition: “I’ll be glad when Satan is cast into the bottomless pit and all these evil things stop for a season” (p.137).

More Evidence of Baxter Plagiarizing From the Book of Revelation

Bible: An angel revealed to John “the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters” (Revelation 17:1) and is told, “The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues” (Revelation 17:15).
Baxter: Baxter saw “a large woman” who had “multitudes, peoples and tongues beneath her” (p.95).

Bible: The woman sitting on a beast had “seven heads and ten horns.” (Revelation 17:3).
Baxter: The woman had “seven heads and ten horns.” (p.95). Notice that Baxter contradicts the Bible here. The Bible says it is the beast that has ten horns – not the woman.

Bible: On the woman was “written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, the mother of Harlots and abominations of the earth” (Revelation 17:15).
Baxter: The woman had the words “Mystery Babylon” written on her and was “the mother of abominations on the earth” which “came from hell” (p.95). Notice how Baxter contradicts the Bible in what was written on the woman. Baxter also misquotes the verse in Revelation by using “on the earth” instead of “of the earth.”

Bible: John saw “the woman drunken with the blood of the saints” (Revelation 17:6).
Baxter: Baxter saw the woman “appeared drunk” (p.95) and “swayed back and forth as though she was drunk” (p.97). The Bible suggests the woman was symbolically “drunk” on blood; but Baxter’s plagiarized version states the woman only “appeared” drunk — and on alcohol rather than symbolically on blood.

Bible: An angel then told John, “The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit” (Revelation 17:8).
Baxter: Baxter saw a large door with flames raging from it that was locked shut. Jesus supposedly told her, “Behind that doorway is the bottomless pit.” Then a “dark figure of a man” wearing a “long, dark cape” appeared in front of the door to the bottomless pit. (p.98). Baxter obviously had the above Bible verse, Revelation 17:8, in mind.

Bible: John is told, “The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth” (Revelation 17:9) and that “the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings” (Revelation 17:12). Note that John’s prophecy fulfills the prophecy of Daniel, “The ten horns are ten kings who shall arise from this kingdom” (Daniel 7:24).
Baxter: The woman Baxter claims she saw was “sitting on a hill” (p.95). Previously, Baxter described seeing horns rising from hell to earth (p.78). Jesus supposedly told Baxter these horns, “represent evil kingdoms on the earth” (p.79). But this is a contradiction of the Book of Revelation and Daniel above which states “the ten horns are ten kings” and not ten evil kingdoms. More details are provided below.

Bible: John heard an angel say, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen” (Revelation 18:2).
Baxter: Referring to the “mother of abominations“, Baxter claims she heard Jesus call out, “In her time she shall be destroyed.” (p.97).

Bible: John heard a voice from heaven say, “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues” (Revelation 18:4).
Baxter: Baxter claims she heard Jesus call out, “Come out from her and be separate.” (p.97).

Bible: John learned Babylon represents a great city where “in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth” (Revelation 18:24).
Baxter: Baxter wrote that the woman labeled “Babylon,” had: “in her was found the blood of the prophets, the saints and all that were slain upon the earth” (p.97). Notice how Baxter plagiarized the verse word-for-word except for a single word “and” which is curious.

Baxter’s Contradictions About the Bible’s Prophecies of “the Horns”

In the 1st edition of her book, Baxter described seeing “what looked like large arms or horns rising from hell and into the earth and over all the earth” (p.78). Then she wondered if these were the horns mentioned in the Bible. Baxter claims Jesus agreed with her by saying they are the horns that Daniel saw and they “represent evil earthly kingdoms” But Baxter made a serious mistake here because the Bible says the ten horns are ten kings and not ten kingdoms claimed by Baxter.

Bible: “The ten horns are ten kings who shall arise from this kingdom” (Daniel 7:24).

So the horns Baxter writes about could not possibly be literal horns rising from hell. And the kingdom Daniel refers to is the final kingdom before Christ returns and is symbolized by:

Bible: “A fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns” (Daniel 7:7).

So for these reasons, Baxter’s prophecy attributed to Jesus is untrue and places a falsehood on the lips of Christ.

Baxter Changed Her Plagiarized Vision in the 2nd Edition of Her Book

By adding the phrase “which is to” in reference to Baxter seeing the New Jerusalem “come down to earth,” she changed her prophecy from the present tense to a future tense. The probable reason for adding this phrase is so that it agrees with the Book of Revelation and possibly avoiding God’s curse for adding or taking away from the Book of Revelation (see below).

1st Edition: “Before me was the New Jerusalem, the city of God come down to earth” (p.140).
2nd Edition: “Before me was the New Jerusalem, the city of God, ADDED: which is to come down to earth” (p.193).
Bible: “city of my God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God” (Revelation 3:12).

God’s Curse For Plagiarizing the Book of Revelation

Bible: “For I (John) testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book” (Revelation 22:18-19).

6. Baxter changed Jesus’ words significantly in the 2nd edition of her book

While writing a review of Baxter’s book, I encountered serious discrepancies between the first edition of her book and the same book (the second edition). Many of the biggest errors in the first edition of her book were corrected and covered up. In this section I expose these discrepancies.

For some bizarre reason, in the second edition of her book, all references from the first edition were removed describing Jesus asking the Father to have mercy on people in hell. One can only speculate why such an important revelation was suspiciously removed. My theory is if Jesus actually asked the Father to have mercy on people in hell, then it would be done because the Father always hears Jesus (John 11:41-42). Removing such words of mercy attributed to Jesus doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test.

Baxter Removed Jesus’ Prayers For Mercy on People in Hell in the 2nd Edition

1st Edition: “Great sobs shook his (lost person’s) skeletal frame as he begged, ‘Please, Jesus, let me out!’ I (Baxter) looked at Jesus and saw that he too was crying. He looked up and said, ‘My Father, my Father, have mercy!’ ‘Lord Jesus,’ the man cried out” (p.22).
2nd Edition: “Great sobs shook his (lost person’s) skeletal frame as he begged, ‘Please, Jesus, let me out!’ I (Baxter) looked at Jesus and saw that he too was crying. He looked up and said, ‘My Father, my Father, have mercy!‘ ‘Lord Jesus,’ the man cried out” (p.28).

1st Edition: “If these had truly come unto the Father and repented, He would have forgiven them. Great tenderness covered Jesus’ face as he said, ‘My Father, have mercy.’ Again we walked among the flaming pits” (p.37).
2nd Edition: “If these had truly come unto the Father and repented, He would have forgiven them. Great tenderness covered Jesus’ face as he spoke, ‘My Father, have mercy.’ Again we walked among the flaming pits” (p.51).

1st Edition: “He (a lost person) fell into a small heap on the floor and continued to cry. Jesus cried, ‘My Father, my Father, have mercy.’ We walked on to another cell” (p.114).
2nd Edition: “He (a lost person) fell into a small heap on the floor and continued to cry. Jesus cried, ‘My Father, my Father, have mercy.’ We walked on to another cell” (p.160).

Baxter Removed Jesus Saying “My Word is True” in the 2nd Edition

Another odd removal of a phrase said by Jesus is “My Word is true” in the 1st edition of her book which was removed in the 2nd edition of her book. Her reason for removing this phrase may be because she claims Jesus said “My Word is true” a total of 5 times in the 1st edition (p.13, 33, 34, 79, 89). Baxter herself mentions the phrase 1 time. She may have realized it was too obvious of a phrase for Jesus to repeat so many times. Nevertheless, removing a statement of Jesus testifying to his Word as being true is highly suspicious and doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test.

1st Edition: Jesus said, “Behind that doorway is the bottomless pit. My Word is true.” (p.98).
2nd Edition: Jesus said, “Behind that doorway is the bottomless pit. My Word is true.” (p.98).

More Examples of Jesus Saying Ridiculous or Ridiculously Self-Evident Statements

Baxter continuously portrays Jesus parroting spiritual truths that are too self-evident to pass through the lips of such a great wisdom teacher as Christ. These parroted phrases obviously came from someone at a grade school reading level such as Baxter. For example, Jesus supposedly told Baxter the following:

“Hell is real” (18 times in her book).
“Heaven is real” (3 times in her book).
“The judgment is real” (p.23).
“Satan is real” (p.50).
“Witchcraft is real” (p.70).
“What you are seeing is real” (p.17).
“The horrors of hell are real” (p.76).
“Demon powers are real” (p.50).
“The powers of darkness are real” (p.13, 50).
“My Father’s mercy is just as real” (p.63).
“These horrors were real” (p.63).
“I am faithful and just” (p.34).
“I have all power in heaven and earth” (4 times).
“My judgments are true” (p.13).
“These things are true” (p.60,113).
“The revelations are true” (p.100).
“These things are faithful and true” (5 times in her book)
“These prophecies you are about to read are true” (p.100)
“The Lord is faithful” (p.119).
“All unrighteousness is sin” (p.100).
“Through my blood, there is forgiveness of sins” (p.34).
“Sin results in death” (p.21).
“My salvation is free” (p.77)
“God is a Spirit” (p.92).
“God is forgiving” (p.37).

The statements above resemble Baxter’s own manner of speech rather than the eloquent words of Christ.

Baxter Removed Jesus’ Words About “Boys and Girls” in the 2nd Edition

As mentioned earlier, Baxter often used a pet phrase “men and women, boys and girls” which she does a total of 3 times in her book – 1 time by Baxter and 2 times by Jesus. But she made some changes in her 2nd edition which are reflected below. I can understand why she chose to remove the first reference about Jesus’ Spirit departing if it is not wanted. It is utterly ridiculous to believe Jesus withdraws the Holy Spirit from Christians under any circumstances. And I can also understand why she chose to remove the second reference below about “boys and girls” marching into the flames of hell which is too ridiculous to believe. What I can’t understand is why she didn’t go all the way and delete the entire ridiculous sentence. It doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test.

1st Edition: “I (Jesus) call different ones for different purposes in my body. If man or woman, boy or girl doesn’t want my Spirit, I will depart. Yes she did answer my call for many years” (p.40).
2nd Edition: “I (Jesus) call different ones for different purposes in my body. If man or woman, boy or girl doesn’t want my Spirit, I will depart. Yes she did answer my call for many years” (p.56).

1st Edition: “As the angels broke the seals, men and women, boys and girls marched straight into the flames. I watched in ghastly fascination wondering if she knew any of them” (p.89)
2nd Edition: “As the angels broke the seals, men and women, boys and girls marched straight into the flames. I watched in morbid fascination wondering if she knew any of them” (p.123).

In the 1st edition of her book, Baxter describes how she watched in “ghastly fascination” men and women, boys and girls marching into the flames of hell. In the 2nd edition of her book she deleted “boys and girls” and changed the wording to “morbid fascination“. But changing the wording from “ghastly” to “morbid” doesn’t change how bizarre it is be to fascinated by watching boys and girls – or men and women – actually marching into the fires of hell.

Baxter Removed Jesus’ Words About Satan Making More Jail Cells in the 2nd Edition

Baxter claims Jesus told her how Satan took over paradise when it was located “close to hell” before Jesus’ death and resurrection and is using it for his own evil purposes. Of course, this is untrue because Baxter got this idea from the Greek concept of “Hades” mentioned in the Bible as being the underworld where all souls, both pious and wicked, go after death. The Greeks believed Hades was located somewhere under the earth and it appears Baxter believes it as well. Why she chose to delete the reference of Satan making more cells there is anyone’s guess.

1st Edition: “These cells were once in paradise; now Satan uses them for his evil purposes and made more” (p.75).
2nd Edition: “These cells were once in paradise; now Satan uses them for his evil purposes and made more” (p.101).

Baxter Changed Jesus’ Words About the Shape of Hell in the 2nd Edition

In the 1st edition of her book, Jesus described to Baxter how hell is located in the center of the earth and has the shape of a body lying on her back with legs, arms, belly, jaws, etc.. But in the 2nd edition, Baxter removed the feminine connotation associated with hell’s shape.

1st Edition: Jesus spoke again, “Hell has a body, like a human form, lying on her back in the center of the earth” (p.28).
2nd Edition: Jesus spoke again, “Hell has a body, like a human form, lying on its back in the center of the earth” (p.36).

Although Baxter changed the feminine connotation of hell, she decided to keep the masculine connotation of heaven:

Baxter Claims Heaven is Literally the Slain Body of Christ Lying on His Back

1st Edition: “High in the heavens I beheld a large spiritual body – it was the body of Christ. And the body was lying on its back on a bed, and blood dripped to the earth. I knew that this was the slain body of our Lord. And then the body grew larger and larger until it filled the heavens. And going into and out of it were the millions of the redeemed. I watched in astonishment as millions climbed up stairs to the body and filled it, beginning with the feet and continuing through the legs, the arms, the stomach, the heart, and the head. And when it was full, I saw that it was filled with men and women from every nation, people, and tongue on the earth” (p.146-147).

Baxter’s description of hell being in the center of the earth is ridiculous to anyone familiar with NDEs of hell and the other afterlife realms. I have never come across a single NDE testimony claiming hell was actually within the center of the earth. It is also impossible geologically speaking. Concerning Baxter’s original portrayal of hell having the shape of a woman, read this article about a possible reason why she did so.

Baxter Removed Five Pages of Jesus Revealing the Works of Satan in the 2nd Edition

Baxter did not include five pages of content from her original book, A Divine Revelation of Hell (1st edition) published in 1993 when she published a newer edition in 1997 of A Divine Revelation of Hell (2nd edition). The removed content (p.55-59) is a description of an event where Jesus told her, “My child, behold the works of Satan” (p.55). But there are problems with not including these pages which I address below:

From page 55 until page 59, Baxter mentions an incident where Jesus supposedly shows her a detailed vision of how Satan lives in the center of the earth and works his evil in the world. Within those five pages, Baxter describes ridiculous scenes of beautiful dancing women in hell saying, “Hail, Satan!” and are given a “mission” to deceive people in the world and “get souls” for Satan. Baxter claims she saw Satan (only his back) and heard him say, “I hate God!” as he used television-like screens to show the dancing women and his demons locations around the world where Satan wants them to work. As the women ascended to earth to work their evil, Baxter claims to have seen Satan wave his arm and hear him say, “I will win against God!”

On one hand, I can understand why Baxter chose not to include these five pages of ridiculous nonsense about Satan. It really does read like it was written by someone with only a grade school education. Anyone living in the center of the earth who believes they are actually a threat to God would have to be someone equivalent to a person who believes they are a poached egg.

But this left me wondering why such important information would not be included in the 2nd edition of her book.

An answer came to me which I describe in Section 4 of this article. There is strong evidence that Baxter wrote her book as a counter to Raymond Moody‘s NDE book, “Life After Life“, which describes the “Being of Light” using television-like screens to show people having NDEs a life review.

7. Baxter covered up her contradictions about Jesus in the 2nd edition of her book

Baxter portrays hell as a place where Satan and his demons gleefully torture everyone there including those people who did his bidding in life. This means Satan is “divided against himself” and according to Jesus word’s in Matthew 12:26, Satan’s kingdom will not stand. So for Baxter to portray Satan torturing his human servants is a contradiction of Jesus’ words. But even more serious, in the 1st edition of her book, Baxter has Jesus contradicting himself by leaving Baxter in hell when he said he wouldn’t. Baxter mentioned that Jesus told her, “I’ll never leave or forsake you.” (p.78). But then Jesus does just that and leaves Baxter in the “heart of hell” to be tortured despite her repeated calls to him for help (p.80). Baxter’s depiction of Jesus contradicting himself leads to serious errors. Baxter caught this contradiction and made the following corrections for the 2nd edition of her book. The words after “ADDED are additions to Jesus’ words in the second edition of her book. The words in RED are words that were changed in the 2nd edition.

Baxter Put More Words in Jesus’ Mouth to Cover Up Her Contradiction

1st Edition: “I (Jesus) will also show you visions of heaven and other places and give you many revelations” (p.11).
2nd Edition: “I (Jesus) will also show you visions of heaven and other places and give you many revelations. ADDED: At times you will see me and at times you won’t, but I will be there with you through all of this. Remember, I am with you always, even to the ends of the earth” (p.14)

Baxter Covered Up Her Original Statements of Jesus Abandoning Her

1st Edition: “I (Baxter) began to realize that I was lost without any hope at all. I sobbed and called out to Jesus over and over again” (p.81).
2nd Edition: “I (Baxter) began to think that I was lost without any hope at all. ADDED: Even though he had promised that he would never leave me or forsake me. I sobbed and called out to Jesus over and over again” (p.111-112).

1st Edition: “I (Baxter) cannot say how I knew, but I knew with all my heart that Jesus was gone. I felt very sad” (p.129).
2nd Edition: “I (Baxter) cannot say quite how I “knew”, but I felt with all my heart that Jesus was gone. ADDED: Even though he had promised that he would never leave me or forsake me, I could not sense him anywhere and was experiencing what a lost soul will experience forever. I was very sad (p.178).

Baxter Has Jesus and God Contradict Themselves But Covers Up Only One

Baxter has Jesus contradict himself again when he supposedly said to Baxter, “If you will humble yourselves and call upon me, I will hear you and bless you.” (p.101). But Baxter had already mentioned how Jesus ignored her calls from hell when he abandoned her there (p.80). However, this contradiction is one Baxter didn’t correct in the 2nd edition of her book.

Baxter did correct another contradiction. It was about God not being able to hear her cries when Jesus abandoned her in hell as described in the 1st edition of her book (p,134). Baxter must have later realized the contradiction when she was reminded how God can do all things, so she covered up her contradiction in the 2nd edition of her book as shown below:

1st Edition: “I (Baxter) cried, for I knew for sure I was in hell. God could not hear me” (p.134).
2nd Edition: “I (Baxter) cried, for I knew for sure I was in hell. ADDED: It seemed as if God could not hear me” (p.185).

Baxter’s Contradiction Cover-Ups of Jesus in the 2nd Edition Didn’t Cover-Up Them All

Jesus eventually did rescue Baxter but gave her a bizarre reason for leaving her in hell:

Baxter claims Jesus told her she would never know for sure “hell was real” unless she actually experienced it for herself (p.85).

But if this is true, it creates another contradiction.

If Baxter would have never known for sure “hell was real” unless she experienced it herself, how can anyone else know for sure “hell is real” unless they experienced what Baxter experienced for themselves? This depiction of Jesus contradicting himself is highly dishonoring to Jesus.

And this creates yet another contradiction:

If people can never know for sure “hell is real” unless they experience what Baxter experienced, then Baxter’s commission to warn people about hell to save them won’t work either unless they experience hell for themselves.

And this creates yet another contradiction:

If God condemns people to hell for not believing Baxter’s commission that “hell is real“, as Baxter claims, then this would make God unjust for condemning people to hell because people can never know for sure “hell is real” unless they experience what Baxter experienced.

Baxter Covered Up a Contradiction About Jesus Taking Her To Heaven in the 2nd Edition

Baxter claims to have spent 30 consecutive nights in hell with Jesus followed immediately by 10 consecutive nights in heaven. But in the 1st edition of her book, she says she was sick for many days after her last day in hell with Jesus (p.137). This means she would have been sick for at least some of these days in heaven which is a contradiction of her testimony. This is probably the reason the reference of being sick for many days was deleted from the 2nd edition of her book.

1st Edition: “I was sick for many days after I was left in the jaws of hell” (p.137).
2nd Edition: “I was sick for many days after I was left in the jaws of hell” (p.189).

8. Baxter’s ridiculous, bizarre, unusual and unjust reasons for people being in hell

Throughout her book, Baxter gives many ridiculous reasons for people being in hell. Here are some examples:

Baxter’s Ridiculous Reasons For People Being In Hell

RIDICULOUS SIN #1: Going to church just to “get men” (p.35). Baxter claims Jesus took her to a fiery pit in hell where a skeletal woman with dead flesh and worms was crying and begging Jesus for mercy. After condemning the lost woman further, Baxter claims Jesus explained to her why she was burning forever:

Jesus: “She went to church just to get men. She found them and seduced them. If she had only come to Me, her sins would all have been washed away by My blood.” (p.35).

RIDICULOUS SIN #2: Mocking Jesus (p.22-23, 67). Baxter claims Jesus brought her to a fiery pit with a skeletal man burning and crying out to Jesus. The man asks Jesus, “Haven’t I suffered enough for my sins?” Baxter claims Jesus replied the following:

Jesus: “It is written, ‘The just shall live by faith!’ All mockers and unbelievers shall have their part in the lake of fire… Even though I died on a cross for you, you mocked Me and would not repent of your sins.” (p.22-23).
Jesus: “Many times I called on her to repent. She mocked Me and said, ‘I enjoy serving Satan. I will keep on serving him.'” (p.67)

RIDICULOUS SIN #3: Making fun of Jesus’ salvation (p.111). Baxter claims to have seen another skeletal man burning in a pit begging Jesus for help. Baxter describes Jesus condemning the man further:

Jesus: “You heard my words often and made fun of My salvation and My Holy Spirit.” (p.111).

RIDICULOUS SIN #4: Not giving your heart to Jesus (p.45, 73). Baxter describes Jesus showing her a woman burning in a pit who asks Jesus if she hasn’t been in hell long enough. Baxter has Jesus condemn the lost woman further:

Jesus: “I placed you where you could hear My Word. But you would not give your heart to Me” (p.45).

RIDICULOUS SIN #5: Not wanting to serve Jesus (p.25, 27, 35, 39, 53, 71, 72-73, 88, 105, 109-112, 145).

Jesus: “You had chance after chance to repent and serve Me” (p.25).

Jesus: “She said, ‘Someday I will serve you. I have no time for you now. No time, no time, I have my life of fun. No time, no time to serve you, Jesus.'” (p.27)
Jesus: “Part of her wanted to serve Me, but you cannot serve God and Satan at the same time.” (p.35)
Jesus: “You pretended to love and serve Me when you were with Christians, but when you were away from Christians, you lied, cheated and stole.” (p.39)
Jesus: “This man was a preacher of the Word of God. There was a time when he served Me with all his heart and led many people to salvation. Some of his converts are still serving Me today, many years later. The lust of the flesh and the deceitfulness of riches led him astray.” (p.53)
Jesus: “Many people give their souls to Satan. They choose to serve him instead of Me. Their choice is death unless they repent of their sins and call upon Me. I am faithful, and I will save them from their sins. Many also sell their souls to Satan thinking they will live forever.” (p71)

RIDICULOUS SIN #6: Flattery (p.100)

Jesus: “The holy people of God have been led away by flatterers.” (p.100).

RIDICULOUS SIN #7: Wanting the world and not Jesus (p.27, 38, 42, 88)

Lost soul: “My soul is truly in torment. There is no way out. I know I wanted the world instead of You, Lord.” (p.27).
Jesus: “I wanted to use you to minister to others, to help others to find Me. But you wanted the world and not Me.” (p.38)
Jesus: “i drew him by My Spirit unto salvation, but he wanted the world and its lust.” (p.42)

RIDICULOUS SIN #8: Gossiping (p.39)

Jesus: “You also had a double tongue. You talked about your brothers and sisters in Christ.” (p.39).

RIDICULOUS SIN #9: Not forgiving someone when they hurt you (p.36, 39, 41)

Baxter: “If you are angry with someone, forgive him. No anger is worth going to hell for.” (p.36).
Jesus: “You would not forgive others when they hurt you.” (p.39).
Jesus: “Even though he (her husband) asked for forgiveness, she grew bitter and would not forgive him and try to save her marriage.” (p.41).

RIDICULOUS SIN #10: Not being generous (p.142)

Lost soul: “I tried to witness to my neighbor about Jesus, but he wouldn’t even listen. When his wife died, he came to me to borrow the money for her funeral, but I remembered that Jesus had said we should be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. So I turned him away. I knew he would spend the money for something else anyway. We have to be good stewards of our money, you know.” (p.142).

Baxter’s Bizarre Reasons For People Being In Hell

Baxter describes bizarre reasons for people being in hell. Below are some examples

BIZARRE SIN #1: Being a “witch” (p.64, 67, 70-71, 74, 77, 109, 114, 115-116, 118, 149).

Jesus: “This woman was the equivalent of a preacher for Satan. Just as the true gospel is preached to us by a real minister, so Satan has his counterfeit ministers. She had the strongest kind of satanic power, one which she was required to sell her soul to receive. Satan’s evil gifts are like the opposite side of the coin to the spiritual gifts Jesus bestows upon believers” (p.70). Notice that Baxter made a mistake here by including the reference to Jesus in this dialogue, making Jesus speak in third person. Baxter is obviously making this up..

BIZARRE SIN #2: Being a “sorcerer” (p.64, 73-74, 110, 117).

Baxter: “Jesus told me that there is a place in hell called the ‘fun center’.. He also told me that though torments are different for different souls, all are burned with fire. The fun center is shaped like a circus arena. Several people who are to be the entertainment are brought to the center ring of the fun center. These are people who knowingly served Satan on earth.. They were mediums, soothsayers, sorcerers, mind readers, witches and warlocks — all those who consciously made a choice to serve Satan” (p.73-74).

BIZARRE SIN #3: Being a “soothsayer” (p.70, 74, 109).

Jesus: “You knew on earth what your end would be. Moses gave you the law, and you heard it. But instead of obeying My law, you chose to be an instrument in the hands of Satan, a soothsayer and witch. You even taught the art of witchcraft.” (p.109).

BIZARRE SIN #4: Being a “worker of the occult” (p.64, 71, 74-75, 116).

Jesus: “I tell you the truth, many souls are here (in hell) because of witchcraft, the occult, the worship of other gods, disobedience, unbelief, drunkenness, and filthiness of the flesh and spirit.” (p.116).

BIZARRE SIN #5: Not listening to modern day prophets (p.101, 144)

Jesus: “You have not hearkened to the words of My servants, the prophet and the prophetess.” (p.101).

Baxter’s Unusual Reasons For People Being In Hell

Baxter describes unusual reasons for people being in hell. Below are some examples.

UNUSUAL SIN #1: Being a homosexual (p.82, 92, 95, 113). In one instance, Baxter describes seeing a river in hell “full of blood and fire” where many skeletal souls were chained together floating down and occasionally dragging them under. Baxter asked Jesus who these people were. Jesus’ reply is:

Jesus: “These are the souls of the unbelievers and the ungodly. These were lovers of their own flesh more than lovers of God. They were men loving men, and women loving women, who would not repent and be saved from their sin.” (p.95).

However, there is biblical evidence that homosexuality is not a sin.

UNUSUAL SIN #2: Being a Christian who didn’t repent of a sin before death (p.23-28, 33-39, 41, 44-47, 49, 51, 53-55, 59-60, 64, 67, 71-73, 75, 88, 92, 96, 98, 101-102, 105, 107, 109-111, 113-115, 126, 129, 138, 142, 144-145, 148, 150). The following is Baxter’s description of three Christians in hell who committed a sin of not giving to the needy and died before they had a chance to repent:

Lost souls: One man said to another, “Did you hear about this man Jesus who came to take away sin?” Another responded, “I know Jesus. He washed my sins away. In fact, I don’t know what I’m doing here (in hell).” “Nor do I,” said the first man.. Another said, “I tried to witness to my neighbor about Jesus, but he wouldn’t even listen”… The first man who had spoken now spoke again. “Yes, brother,” he said, “a boy at our church needed clothes and shoes, but his father drinks, so I refused to buy anything for his son — we really taught that man a lesson”… Jesus said, “O foolish people and slow of heart, awaken to the truth, and love one another with fervent love. Help the helpless. Give to those in need without any thought of getting anything in return.” (p.142).

UNUSUAL SIN #3: Being a psychic medium (p.64, 70-71, 74).

Jesus: “This cell block is 17 miles high, starting from the bottom of hell. Here in these cells are many souls that were in witchcraft or the occult. Some were sorcerers, mediums, drug peddlers, idol worshipers or evil people with familiar spirits.” (p.64).

Baxter’s Unjust Reasons For People Being In Hell

Baxter describes Christian ministers in hell who are there for preaching doctrines she doesn’t approve of. These include:

UNJUST SIN #1: Ministers who don’t teach “the Holy Ghost Baptism” (p.53).

Jesus: “He knew not to teach or preach any other doctrine except the truth as revealed in the Bible. But before he died, he even said the Holy Ghost baptism was a lie and that those who claimed to have the Holy Ghost were hypocrites.” (p.53).

UNJUST SIN #2: Ministers who don’t believe Jesus is returning again (p.32).

Lost soul: “I know that while I was on earth, I didn’t believe there was a hell, nor did I believe You were coming again. ” (p.32).

UNJUST SIN #3: Ministers who don’t teach there is a hell (p.32, 53).

Lost soul: “Lord, I will now preach the true gospel. I will tell about sin and hell. But please help me out of here.” (p.53).

UNJUST SIN #4: Ministers who “teach people to sin” (p.101). This is evidence of Baxter displaying a condescending and holier-than-thou attitude toward other ministers who do not agree with her brand of theology. Her depiction of Christian ministers in hell seems to be a way for them to not question her particular theology or they’ll go to hell.

Jesus: “Listen, you ministers of My Holy Word. Do not teach My people to sin against their God. Remember that judgment begins at the house of God; unless you repent, I will remove you for the sins you have taught My people.” (p.101).

9. Baxter’s hilarious and unbelievable depictions of hell

Baxter’s testimony provides horrific descriptions of people being tortured to the extremes in hell. Yet, in a strange manner, she also described them as willing and able to be casually interviewed. These interviews give the reader very personal information about the sins each person committed that sent them to hell. Baxter’s description of these interviews is similar to descriptions of people standing up in church to give their testimonies of how they were saved. These very casual interviews of people while they are being horrifically tortured are obviously phony as you will see in the example below. And when you consider the phony dialogue in these interviews, Baxter’s motive for writing her book becomes crystal clear. These people in hell are Baxter’s mouthpieces created for promoting her particular brand of theology. For example, Baxter and Jesus came across a skeletal woman being horrifically burned and tortured in a pit with worms crawling in her bones. The lost woman’s interview is provided below.

A Burning, Tortured, Skeletal Woman In Hell Giving Her Testimony to Jesus and Baxter

“My soul is truly in torment. There is no way out. I know that I wanted the world instead of you, Lord. I wanted riches, fame and fortune, and I got it. I could buy anything I wanted; I was my own boss. I was the prettiest, best-dressed woman of my time. And I had riches, fame and fortune, but I found I could not take them with me in death.. I planned to serve you someday when I got ready. I thought you would always be there for me. But how wrong I was! I was one of the most sought-after women of my time for my beauty. I knew God was calling me to repent. All my life he drew me with cords of love, and I thought I could use God like I used everyone else. He would always be there. Oh yes, I used God! He would try so hard to get me to serve Him, while all the time I thought I didn’t need Him. Oh, how wrong I was! For Satan began to use me, and I began to serve Satan more and more. At the last I loved him more than God. I loved to sin and would not turn to God. Satan used my beauty and my money, and all my thoughts turned to how much power he would give me. Even then, God continued to draw me. But I thought, I have tomorrow or the next day. Then one day while riding in a car, my driver ran into a house, and I was killed. Lord, please let me out” (p.27-28).

There are a couple of phony aspects to this testimony Baxter provided. The above casual and personal interview of this lost and tortured woman is typical of all the phony interviews in hell described by Baxter. Absolute proof the above interview is phony is how this lost woman used one of Baxter’s pet phrases “how wrong I was!” twice. Baxter herself used this identical pet phrase on page 48:

Baxter: “The tunnel cannot possibly be as bad as the pits. But how wrong I was!” (p.48).

This means 2 people used the same phrase “how wrong I was” a total of 3 times (p.27,28,48) in Baxter’s book which is strong evidence that the words of the burning, tortured woman in hell above were fabricated by Baxter. I should point out that Jesus’ only reply to this tortured woman was very cold, “The judgment is set” (p.28). Afterward, Baxter uses Jesus as her mouthpiece to promote her “hell is real” propaganda campaign by turning to her and saying the following:

Jesus: “Remember to tell the people of earth that hell is real. Millions of lost souls are here, and more are coming every day. On the Great Judgment Day, death and hell will be cast into the lake of fire; that will be the second death” (p.28).

The phrases above about the “lake of fire” and “the second death” are phrases Baxter plagiarized from the Book of Revelation. See below. This is just one of many examples of plagiarism from the Bible in Baxter’s book.

Bible: “Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death” (Revelation 20:14).

Errors With Baxter’s Ridiculous Depictions of People In Hell

According to Baxter, some people are immediately dragged into hell after death. Baxter says when sinners die, they go immediately to hell. Demons drag them through the gates of hell and are placed into pits of fire and tortured. Later, they are brought before Satan (p.73). But this contradicts the Bible (Hebrews 9:27) and NDE studies describing how everyone is judged (i.e., life review) immediately after death and then go to their assigned heavenly abode.

According to Baxter, people in hell have souls resembling “dirty-grey mists”. Baxter describes people in hell having souls resembling “dirty-grey mists” which are “caged” within their skeletal bodies (p.21, 23, 24, 33, 37, 44, 52, 66, 111, 113, 130). This is an obvious falsehood because the “soul body” or “astral body” resembles an ideal version of a person’s entire body that was alive in the world according to the Bible, NDE and parapsychology research. Her description of the soul within their body resembling mists having a dirty-grey color is also false.

According to Baxter, people in hell have skeletons for a body. Baxter describes the bodies of people in hell as being actual skeletons with real bones (p.21, 22, 26, 32, 38, 39, 42, 66, 68, 83, 89, 97, 109, 111, 113, 130, 132, 133). This is an obvious falsehood because spirits cannot have bones in the spirit world according to the Bible (Luke 24:39), NDE and parapsychology research.

According to Baxter, people in hell have real flesh on their bones. Baxter describes people in hell having real flesh burning and decaying from their skeletons (p. 16, 21-23, 26, 32, 34, 38, 44, 61, 65-66, 68-69, 72-73, 76, 78, 80, 82, 83, 90, 109, 112, 130-131, 133, 135, 141). This is another obvious falsehood because spirits cannot have flesh in the spirit world according to the Bible (Luke 24:39), NDE and parapsychology research.

According to Baxter, people in hell have fire-proof worms crawling on them. Baxter describes people in hell being tormented by real worms crawling within their bones (p.25, 28, 44, 50, 59, 90, 151, 155, 176-177, 180) and how these worms are not hurt by the flames. This scenario is probably due to her misunderstanding the words of Jesus in Mark 9:44 when he metaphorically warns people about falling into temptation and doing things that would cause them to go to hell. Jesus mentioned hell as a place where “their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.” In Mark 9:44, Jesus quoted from Isaiah 66:24 where the prophet mentions corpses of men who transgressed against God. The translation or “targum” of Jewish rabbis concerning this verse is that, metaphorically, in the same manner that maggots don’t die on corpses, so the “consciences” of those in hell will forever “gnaw” upon their souls because of the sins they committed.

According to Baxter, some people in hell have real flesh bodies with real blood. Baxter describes some people in hell having actual physical, flesh and blood bodies (p.53-54, 66, 95, 107, 146). This is another obvious falsehood because spirits cannot have flesh and blood in the spirit world according to the Bible (Luke 24:39), NDE and parapsychology research.

According to Baxter, disabilities that people have in life are carried over in hell. Baxter mentioned how people with disabilities such as missing limbs in life are carried over into hell (p.73). This is another obvious falsehood because the soul body is an ideal representation of a person’s body in life without the flaws of the person’s physical body. It is also a contradiction of Jesus’ own words in the Bible where he states: “And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.” (Matthew 5:30)

Errors With Baxter’s Depictions of the Afterlife and Hell

Baxter’s description of hell may have been plagiarized from Dante’s Inferno. Baxter describes hell as remarkably similar to Dante’s Inferno from Dante’s Divine Comedy (1265-1321 AD) complete with demons torturing people in pits of fire and jail cells. As with Dante’s Inferno, Baxter portrayed demons and Satan functioning as supervisors in hell who are responsible for inflicting pain (beyond the pain already inflicted by hell itself) on lost people under their charge (p.29-31, 42).

According to Baxter, day and night exists in the afterlife and hell. Baxter made the mistake of mentioning day and night while she was in hell which, according to Baxter, is located within the center of the earth where it is impossible to discern whether it is day or night (p.27, 53, 67).

According to Baxter, an escalator brings demons up from hell to earth. Baxter describes how she saw a flight of stairs going down into the earth and into hell which eventually became an escalator bringing demons up to earth from hell (p.93). But, according to NDE research, there are better means of spirit travel such as floating, flying, and instantaneous movement.

Baxter claims she heard gnashing of teeth in hell. Baxter claimed she “heard weeping and gnashing of teeth” in hell (p.87). “Gnashing of teeth” is a Greek phrase which literally means “grinding one’s teeth together” and is consistently a description of anger. It can be compared to hitting your thumb with a hammer, closing your eyes and clenching your teeth together in pain and anger. In Job 16:9, the pitiless friends “gnash their teeth” at righteous Job. The wicked “gnash their teeth” at the righteous one (Psalm 35:15). The council “gnashed their teeth” at Stephen before stoning him (Acts 7:54). Associating the phrase “weeping and gnashing of teeth” with hell is a description of hell as a place of tears and anger. It is impossible to hear people literally “gnashing their teeth” as Baxter claims she did.

Baxter claims time exists in the afterlife and hell. Baxter also made the mistake of mentioning that time can be measured in the spirit world. Baxter described a lost person who said he had been in hell for 40 years (p.26). But according to NDE and parapsychological studies, the spirit world consists of many realms all of which are timeless. Time is measured only in the physical realm (the universe) using entropy and the position of the earth relative its movement around the sun. Baxter even contradicted herself by describing in her testimony how, in hell, “minutes seemed like hours, and hours stretched in to eternity” (p.183).

Baxter’s Hilarious and Unbelievable Depictions of Satan

Baxter couldn’t adequately describe Satan’s appearance. Although Baxter claims she spent 30 consecutive nights in hell – many of which observing Satan up close and personal – she is either unwilling or unable to give a complete description of Satan’s appearance. She is also inconsistent in her statement of seeing only Satan’s back (p.76) which is reminiscent of Moses only being able to see God’s back (Exodus 33:18-34:9). Her only description of him is: (1) he has reddish-yellow flames with brown edges all around him (p.76); (2) neither he nor his garments burn from the flames (p.76); (3) his evil laughter can be heard everywhere (p.76). But this is not really a description of Satan and it comes close to the idea of Satan having a pitchfork. And because she cannot provide complete descriptions of either Jesus and Satan, her entire testimony is doubtful.

Baxter claims Satan lives in the center of the earth. Baxter describes Satan as living in hell within the center of the earth (p.16, 53-54, 61-62, 65, 67-68, 71-77, 82-84, 134). But this is a contradiction of the Bible showing him acting among the Body of Christ in the world trying to inflict whatever deception he can (1 Peter 5:8, Revelation 12:12).

Baxter claims Satan is confined to earth and is a formidable threat to God. Baxter portrays Satan as being confined to the earth instead of being a universal evil force or being a debased condition of the soul. Baxter depicts Satan as a formidable threat to God who thinks he can overthrow and disrupt God’s plan (p.71). But when one considers how unimaginably immense the universe is, and how enormous God is who transcends this immense universe, to believe in a being who could possibly be a threat to God is like believing in an ant that believes it has the power to stop the sun from shining. It just doesn’t make any logical or theological sense.

Baxter portrays Satan as divided against himself. Baxter portrayed Satan as being divided against himself because she portrayed him torturing people such as “workers of the occult” who “did his bidding” (p.64, 71, 74-75, 116). Logically, if Satan tortures those who are working for him (one of whom supposedly “won” 500 souls to Satan) instead of rewarding them, then according to Jesus his kingdom is divided and cannot stand (Mark 3:22-26). Baxter’s portrayal of Satan, therefore, doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test. Baxter’s portrayal of Satan creates a serious credibility problem with her testimony.

According to Baxter, Satan has a “Fun Center” in hell. Baxter mentioned that Satan has a “Fun Center” in hell (p.74) where every form of torture is allowed including a special torture for “workers of the occult” where the demons pull apart the “bones” of their skeletons and play a very painful game of scavenger hunt with them (p.74). But the Bible clearly states that it is the demons in hell that are in torment (2 Peter 2:4). NDE and parapsychological research doesn’t affirm the existence of such a “Fun Center” either.

10. Baxter’s problem of everyone in her book speaking exactly like her

Baxter unknowingly made the mistake of having all the people depicted in her book speak using the same unusual phrases, idioms, and specific religious jargon Baxter herself uses — that of someone at the reading level of a grade schooler. This proves all the words said by everyone in her book originated from a single source, Baxter herself, and not the many people she claims to have encountered and spoken with. For example, Baxter uses the phrase “on earth” when referring to a person’s lifetime before they died. In fact, the phrase “on earth” is used by 7 people (see the chart below) a total of 38 times in her book. There are many alternative phrases people could use to refer to “life before death” than the unusual phrase “on earth” including: “when I was alive”; “before I died”; “in life”; “during my life”; “when I was living in the world”, “in my former life”, etc. Because everyone in Baxter’s book speaks just like her, like a Charismatic Christian with a grade school level reading ability, it is clear evidence of Baxter’s deception and fraud.

7 People who use the phrase “on earth” a total of 13 times (out of 38 times)

Baxter: “When you die on earth, if you are born again by the Spirit of God, your soul goes to heaven” (p.73).
Baxter: “When souls die on earth and are not saved from their sins, they come here” (p.134).

Jesus: “While she was on earth, she had cancer and was in much pain” (p.25).
Jesus: “While he was on earth, this man was a preacher of the gospel” (p.32).
Jesus: “While you were on earth, I called you to come to me” (p.38).
Jesus: “While you were on earth, I called and called for you to come to me” (p.44).
Jesus: “When they were alive on earth, they deceived many… to follow Satan and to sin” (p.74).
Jesus: “But sinners must repent while still alive on earth” (p.111).

Satan: “You did serve me well while on earth” (p.72).

Lost Person #1: “They must repent of their sins while they are still on earth” (p.23).
Lost Person #2: “I’m sorry that I didn’t repent while I was on earth” (p.25).
Lost Person #3: “While I was on earth, I didn’t believe there was a hell” (p.32).
Lost Person #4: “When I was on earth, I worshiped the Hindu gods and many idols” (p.114).

Previously Analyzed Phrases Used By Many People in Baxter’s Book

Thus far, the following strange phrases used by many people in Baxter’s book have been analyzed.

For the phrase “on earth“, Jesus used the phrase 17 timesBaxter used the phrase 16 times; Satan used the phrase 1 time; and 4 Lost Persons used the phrase 4 times.

For the phrase “this place of torment,” Baxter used the phrase 3 times; Satan used the phrase 1 time; and Lost persons used the phrase 4 times.For the phrase “how wrong I was!”, Baxter used the phrase 1 time; Lost persons used the phrase 2 times.

For the phrase “Holy Ghost“, Jesus used the phrase 4 times; God used the phrase 2 times; and Baxter used the phrase 2 times.

For the phrase “Holy Spirit“, Jesus used the phrase 2 times; and Baxter used the phrase 4 times.

Especially Unusual Phrases Used By Many People in Baxter’s Book

The large number of unusual phrases used in the dialogue of many people in Baxter’s book are statistically enough evidence to show how the dialogue originated from a single source — Baxter herself. This is especially true when you see the other 37 unusual phrases used by a large number of people in Baxter’s book which I have listed below. The evidence then becomes overwhelming proof of Baxter’s deception. There are several unusual phrases Baxter uses which are so unusual that I want to analyze them first. Consider the phrase below::

Jesus: “Many boys and girls, men and women were forced against their wills” (p.96).
Jesus: “An army of holy men and women, boys and girls” (p.102)
Baxter: “As the angels broke the seals, men and women, boys and girls marched straight into the flames” (p.89)

The fact that 2 people, Jesus and Baxter, use the same phrase “men and women, boys and girls” a total of 3 times proves the dialogue in Baxter’s book originated from a single source – not two. Also, the phrase “men and women” alone is used by 4 people a total of 12 times. Jesus used the phrase 6 times; Baxter used it 4 times; 1 lost person in hell used it 1 time; and another lost person in hell uses it 1 time. Why use such an unusual phrase when a one or two words would suffice? Words such as: “people”, “adults”, “children”, “teenagers”, “youngsters”, “Christians”, “sinners”, “souls”, etc.? Consider the next unusual phrase::

Baxter: “She loves the Lord with all her heart, mind, soul, and strength” (p.8)
Jesus: “These are they who have turned to me with all their heart, soul, mind and strength” (p.102).

Would Baxter have us believe that 2 people, Jesus and herself, use almost the exact same phrase 2 times in describing those who love the Lord? Notice the first instance is on page 8 and the next on page 102. This is obviously more than a little coincidence. It is very, very suspicious. Consider the next unusual phrase::

God:The things you read in this book are true” (p.105).
Baxter:The things you have read in this book are true” (p.158)

Once again, would Baxter have us believe that 2 people, God and herself, would say almost the exact same phrase 2 times? Would Baxter have us believe that God Himself has endorsed her book as being true? True as the Bible? I find it very hard to believe.

Consider the next even more unusual phrase::

Jesus: “You are lost and forever undone” (p.45).
Baxter: “I felt lost and undone” (p.93).

A simple Google search for the phrase “lost and undone” only gives 18 results. This proves the phrase is statistically unlikely to appear anywhere on the Internet which means it is a phrase used by very, very, very few people. What are the odds of both Jesus and Baxter actually using this same unusual phrase? Extremely unlikely. However, I have evidence from all the research I have done on evaluating Baxter’s book and have concluded that she uses the New King James Version of the Bible. When I did a search for the word “undone” in this version of the Bible, I come up with only one relevant result. It is an event in the Bible when the prophet Isaiah sees the Lord and becomes a prophet. Isaiah wrote: “So I said: ‘Woe is me, for I am undone! Because I am a man of unclean lips, And I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; For my eyes have seen the King, The Lord of hosts.” (Isaiah 6:5). But the vast majority of other Bible translations do not use “undone” but use “ruined”, “doomed”, “destroyed”, “lost”, or “dead” instead. So for Baxter to have us believe that Jesus “parrots” the narrow language from the New King James Version of the Bible as Baxter does is not only suspicious, it smells of deception, and reeks of fraud.

There is another sentence concerning the word “repent” which Baxter claims Jesus said in her book which stands out as very bizarre::

Jesus: “Repent,” he (Jesus) said, “for I am a jealous God.” (p.92).
Bible: “For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God.” (Exodus 20:5)

The sentence above which Baxter claims she heard Jesus say has significant problems. It is a flat out plagiarized verse from Exodus. This is just one of a multitude of King James Bible verses Baxter plagiarizes and has Jesus and God parrot throughout her book as her mouthpieces to promote her narrow theology. And for many Christians, including myself, attributing Exodus 20:5 to Jesus as the “jealous God” of the Hebrew Bible is blasphemy.

More Serious Errors With the Dialogue In Baxter’s Book

Baxter constantly depicts Jesus “parroting” verses from the Bible. For example, Baxter claims she was brought before skeletal man burning in a pit who pleaded with Jesus, “Haven’t I suffered enough for my sins?” (p.22). Jesus replied to him:

Jesus: “It is written, ‘The just shall live by faith!” (p.22).

In this example, Baxter portrayed Jesus parroting a quote from Paul in the King James Bible (Romans 1:17). Notice also how Jesus’ reply to the lost person doesn’t even apply to his situation. Such portrayals of Jesus parroting Bible verses without reason is replete throughout Baxter’s book.

Baxter has Jesus misquote a verse plagiarized from the King James Bible. In one incident, Baxter claims to have seen a vision of terrible evil happening on earth (p.117). Baxter then portrays Jesus erroneously misquoting from the King James Bible. According to Baxter, Jesus told her:

Jesus: “Put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand” (p.118).

But this is a misquote of Paul in his epistle to the Ephesians.

Bible: “Take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand” (Ephesians 6:13, New King James Version).

Bible: “Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and, having done all, to stand.” (Ephesians 6:13, World English Bible).

For Baxter to put words in Jesus’ mouth and portray him misquoting the Bible in this manner should raise a red flag to all Bible-believing Christians.

Everyone in Baxter’s book speaks in King James English. Everyone in Baxter’s book, including Jesus, God, Baxter, demons, and Satan speaks in King James English. The reason why Baxter uses King James English so frequently can only be guessed. I believe she uses such language to somehow give her book the same authority as the Bible. However, any Bible believing Christian can easily see through her deception. Below are some examples of this. Baxter claims Jesus said to her the following:

Jesus: “Many times My Spirit drew them, but they would not hearken or come unto Me to be saved” (p.77).

The King James English words “hearken” and “unto” are translated in modern English as “hear” and “to” respectfully. It would be really bizarre if Jesus actually talked this way considering he actually spoke the Aramaic language in life. As mentioned previously, in near-death experiences, communication is telepathic and no language is used. Baxter uses the word “hearken” a total of 2 times in her book and the word “unto” a total of 9 times.

Another King James word Baxter likes to use is the word “shall” instead of the word “will” although she frequently makes the mistake of mixing them up. One example is found in Chapter 18 titled “Open Visions from Hell” where Baxter claims Jesus told her:

Jesus: “The Lord said, ‘This vision is for the future, and it will come to pass. But I shall return to redeem My bride, My church, and they shall not see it. Awaken, O My people! Sound the alarm to the comers of the earth, for I shall return as My Word has spoken.’ (p.121)

Baxter uses the word “shall” a total of 36 times in her book. Even demons in hell talk using this King James word. When Baxter claims Jesus left her in hell, a demon grabbed Baxter and asked Satan in King James English:

Demon: “What shall I do with her, Lord Satan?” the evil spirit asked.” (p.84).

Baxter also speaks in King James English:

Baxter: “I remembered that every eye shall behold Him and every knee shall bow before Him.” (p.148)

Other King James words Baxter likes to use are the words “behold” instead of the word “see” and the word “beheld” instead of the word “saw“. Baxter uses the word “behold” a total of 12 times and the word “beheld” a total of 5 times. Here are some examples:

Baxter: “I said, ‘Jesus, this is awful to behold.’ (p.117).

Baxter: “I looked, and behold there were rows upon rows of angel forces, with about 600 in each row.” (p.118).

Baxter: “I beheld the fiery serpent that was in the right arm of hell.” (p.121).

Everyone in Baxter’s book speaks perfect American English. When everyone is not speaking in King James English, Baxter describes everyone speaking in perfect American English including lost people who have been in hell for hundreds of years, a lost person who once lived in an ancient era and had been in hell before the time of Christ, demons who don’t know Baxter and Jesus are there, Satan, and all the sign posts in hell.

Jesus: “It is not my will that any should perish, but have everlasting life. Sad to say, most will not repent of their sins before they die, and they will go to hell.” (p.72).

Baxter uses God as a mouthpiece to promote her political beliefs. In an especially ridiculous incident, Baxter claims God revealed to her what happens to aborted fetuses. It is also a shamefully obvious attempt by Baxter to use God as a mouthpiece to spout her narrow political belief using the same language and style as Baxter uses throughout her book. Referring to abortion, Baxter claims God revealed to her “a planet as large as the earth” where angels supposedly bring the aborted babies to grow. Baxter claims God told her the following:

God: “I sent My Son to die on a cross so that no one needed to be lost. But,” He said with a smile, “I was about to show you the place I made for My children. I care greatly about all children. I care when a mother loses a child, even as the fruit of your womb, My child, was cast before its time. You see, I know all things, and I care. From the time there is life in the womb, I know. I know about the babies that are murdered while they are still in their mother’s bodies — the aborted lives that are cast off and unwanted. I know about the stillborn and those children who are born with crippling defects. From the time of conception, that is a soul. My angels go down and bring the children to Me when they die. I have a place where they can grow, learn and be loved. I give them whole bodies and restore whatever parts they are missing. I give them glorified bodies.” (p.72).

Baxter is wrong. God is not a man and does not smile. The beginning of the above sentence was previously analyzed to show how ridiculous it is to suggest Baxter saw God smile when God is not a man (Numbers 23:19). Reading the paragraph above will convince you that the words and ideas behind it obviously originated from Baxter. God is light (1 John 1:5) and God is love (1 John 4:7-8) and God is life (1 John 5:20). So describing God as having a mouth to smile with is, of course, ridiculous and unbiblical.

Baxter is wrong. The Bible approves of abortion. Concerning whether or not abortion is Biblical, the evidence shows that it is indeed Biblical as long as babies are not aborted near the time of birth. In Hosea 9:14-16, the prophet Hosea prayed to God to abort the fetuses of his enemies which God did. Also, according to Numbers 5:20-22, when a woman becomes pregnant by a man who is not her husband, God gave Moses “water that brings a curse” which the pregnant woman must be made to drink to induce a miscarriage. Therefore, it is evident that God approves of abortion to as Biblical and legal..

Baxter Describes Jesus and God Using “Holy Ghost” and “Holy Spirit” Interchangeably

Baxter made the mistake of having Jesus and God use the words “Holy Ghost” and “Holy Spirit” interchangeably. Although the King James Bible uses “Holy Ghost,” and modern Bible translations use “Holy Spirit,” they refer to the same thing – the Spirit of God. But the fact that Baxter described God and Jesus varying their speech phraseology from the King James “Holy Ghost” to the modern “Holy Spirit” makes her testimony highly suspect. Here are some examples:

Jesus: “Again I tell you, do not defile the marriage bed. Do not defile the body in which the Holy Ghost dwells” (p.102).

Jesus: “You are of your father the devil. All liars will have their part in the lake of fire. You have blasphemed the Holy Ghost” (p.111).

Jesus: “The Holy Spirit is revealing a great truth to you” (p.117).

God: “And then I heard the voice of the Father saying, ‘The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are all one. The Father and the Son are one, and the Father and the Holy Ghost are one'” (p.138).

Baxter: “I will do it for the glory of the Father, the glory of the Son, and the glory of the Holy Ghost. May the will of God be done” (p.48).

A total of 6 people use the phrase “Holy Ghost” a total of 8 times in Baxter’s book (p.48, 53, 102, 111, 130, 138).

A total of 2 people use the phrase “Holy Spirit” a total of 6 times in Baxter’s book (p. 5, 10, 111, 117).

Baxter Depicts Jesus and God Speaking In Third-Person

Baxter made the mistake of describing Jesus and God occasionally speaking in third-person throughout her testimony. Here are some examples:

Jesus: “You are to bring the lost out of darkness and into the light of the gospel of Jesus Christ” (p.14).

Jesus: “You talked about your brothers and sisters in Christ” (p.39).

Jesus: “Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church” (p.100).

Notice this is a verbatim quote from Paul in Ephesians 5:25.

Jesus: “They shall win many to Jesus Christ before the day the evil beast arises” (p.103).

God: “They will be cut off from the Lord God forever” (p.143).

God: “For many will be beheaded for trusting the Lord God” (p.144).

God: “The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are all one. The Father and the Son are one, and the Father and the Holy Ghost are one. I sent my Son to die on a cross so that no one needed to be lost. But,” He said with a smile, “I was about to show you the place I made for My children” (p.138).

Notice Baxter claims she saw the Father “smile”.

God: “Without faith it is impossible to please God” (p.119).

11. Baxter’s problem of everyone in her book promoting her problematic theology

Everyone in Baxter’s book, including Jesus, is a mouthpiece for affirming Baxter’s narrow brand of Charismatic theology. The biggest example of this is how everyone in her book affirms a doctrine called “Christian perfection.” This is the false belief that a true Christian must become completely free from their sinful nature and become perfectly holy; and if a true Christian commits a sin — no matter how insignificant it may be — if they don’t repent of it before they die, they are eternally damned to hell. Such a belief is associated with Charismatic denominations, the “Holiness Movement” and the Full Gospel Church of which Baxter belongs. Baxter constantly depicts Christians in hell who have committed a sin of which they didn’t repent (or it was “too late” to repent) before they died (p.23-28, 33-39, 41, 44-47, 49, 51, 53-55, 59-60, 64, 67, 71-73, 75, 88, 92, 96, 98, 101-102, 105, 107, 109-111, 113-115, 126, 129, 138, 141-142, 144-145, 148, 150). But “Christian perfection” is a contradiction of scripture. Becoming born again does not mean the Christian is no longer a sinner. A Christian’s sinful nature remains with them until death. Only Jesus is without sin (2 Corinthians 5:21). Even Paul mentions his own struggle with his sinful nature (Romans 7:15-24).Baxter’s entire theology can be refuted by the well-known quote below:

However, I would qualify this statement by saying, “No one is perfect but God; and God has already forgiven everyone.” To be clear, God does expect us to attain holiness as a goal; but God certainly knows only One is perfectly holy. Baxter’s theology is false because it assumes people can attain perfection and holiness on their own power, thereby making salvation a matter resting in their own hands. But if salvation is a matter resting in Christ’s hands, it can never be lost. See the Bible verse below left.

Baxter’s “mouthpieces” promote Christian perfection by constantly referring to how sinners and Christians must repent of sins before they die; otherwise, it is too late. Christian perfection assumes if you commit a sin (an example from Baxter: gossiping) and do not repent, or forgot to repent, before you die, you will be sent to hell where it is “too late” to repent. In fact, the subtitle of her book is “Time Is Running Out.” Baxter makes sure this message comes through repeatedly through her mouthpieces. For example, as previously shown Baxter uses the phrase “too late” a total of 35 times in her book. Below are some examples:

Examples of People Parroting Baxter’s “Waited To Late” Theology

Jesus: “Tomorrow never came, for she waited too long.” (p.27).
Baxter: “But death has no mercy. He waited too late” (p.43).
Lord God: “Repent now before it is too late” (p.126).
Lost Person #1: “If only I had repented before it was too late!” (p.25).
Lost Person #2: “Why did I wait until too late?” (p.25).
Lost Person #3: “But I waited too long, and now it is too late” (p.113).

With Baxter and her mouthpieces constantly parroting it’s “too late” for people in hell to repent and be saved, the reader might wonder: “Why is it too late?” and “What prevents Jesus from rescuing repentant people in hell?” After all, even Baxter acknowledges Jesus as having the “keys” to hell and “all power in heaven and in earth” (p.71). The Bible even mentions Jesus rescuing people from hell after his death – the so-called “Harrowing of Hell.” NDE research reveals Jesus continues to rescue people in hell who call out for him (a perfect example is atheist turned reverend Howard Storm and his NDE). A search for the phrase “too late” in the New King James Version of the Bible on the BibleGateway search engine gives 0 results. And considering the overwhelming evidence that Jesus and the Bible teach reincarnation and not eternal damnation, then Baxter’s narrow “too late” theology does not ring true.

Problems With Baxter’s Narrow Theology

Baxter’s problems with Christian perfection. As previously mentioned, Baxter constantly shows how a single unrepentant sin committed before death can send a Christian to eternal damnation in hell. Baxter is obvious unfamiliar with Bible references revealing how a true Christian can stumble into sin, but their salvation can never be lost. See Jesus’ parable of the Prodigal Son and [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]. This is not a complete list.

Baxter’s theology also leads to the ridiculous situation depicted in the comic on the left. It assumes all that is necessary to get to heaven is to accept Christ as savior before you die. Part of Baxter’s problem is her confusion about the process and order of salvation such as redemption, regeneration, repentance, justification, sanctification, glorification, etc. — all different stages of Christian spiritual growth. They will be briefly explained below:

The Proper Order and Process of Salvation at Odds with Baxter’s Faulty Theology

FOREKNOWLEDGE: God knew all his children before the world began. For Christian Universalists, this means God knew all of humanity before the world began.

PREDESTINATION: God chose all his children for salvation before the world began (Ephesians 1:4-6). For Christian Universalists, this means God has chosen all of humanity for salvation.

ATONEMENT:  About 2,000 years ago, Jesus paid the karmic debt for all God’s children through his death and at-onement with God (1 John 2:2).

CALLING:  At the appointed time, God draws all his children toward himself and salvation through his irresistible grace (John 6:44).

FAITH:  Once God draws his children, God gives them the gift of faith unto salvation (Ephesians 2:8-9).

REGENERATION:  Once God gives faith to his children, God gives them new spiritual life as well through God’s Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5).

REDEMPTION:  With a new spiritual life, God’s children stand redeemed from sin and hell (Titus 2:13-14).

RECONCILIATION:  This is the result of redemption when God and his children become one and are reconciled (2 Corinthians 5:17-19).

REPENTANCE:  With a new spiritual life, God’s children are led to a life of rejection of sin and acceptance of repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

JUSTIFICATION:  Once redeemed, reconciled and repented, God considers his children to be in a state as if they’ve never sinned (Romans 8:30).

ADOPTION:  Now justified as righteous by God, his children are adopted into the chosen “people of Israel” (Galatians 4:4-5).

SANCTIFICATION:  From the moment of justification to death, God helps his children become more and more holy (1 John 3:2-3; 2 Timothy 2:21).

DIVINIZATION:  During the process of sanctification, God helps his children become transformed into his image (2 Corinthians 3:17-18; Psalm 82:6; John 10:30-36)

PERSEVERANCE:  The Father chose all his children before time began, the Son made atonement for them, the Holy Spirit gives them faith, and now that his children have eternal life, they have overcome death and, with God’s help, will persevere to the very end (Romans 8:38-39, Jude 1:24).

GLORIFICATION:  This is the final step when God’s people attain their heavenly bodies (Romans 8:30).

RESURRECTION:  This step in the process is admittedly controversial because it is a belief system associated with early Judeo-Christian sects, Universalists and religions of the East. Because God has predestined and justified all people, those who die without spiritual regeneration (rebirth) must undergo physical rebirth (reincarnation or “resurrected” in Biblical terms) until spiritual rebirth is attained. The evidence that Jesus taught reincarnation as resurrection is overwhelming. The history of the doctrine of the Resurrection of the Dead was mistakenly believed to be “dead bodies coming out of tombs” after Judgment Day, instead of “live babies coming out of wombs” after death to be reborn for another opportunity at spiritual rebirth..

Baxter’s problems with salvation:

Baxter’s problematic theology contradicts the Bible concerning salvation. For example, Baxter described how a murderer in hell could have gone instead to heaven if only he had merely accepted Christ immediately before death (p.111-112). This contradicts the Bible where James, the brother of Jesus, declared a person is “justified by works and not by faith alone” (James 2:24) and “faith without works is dead (James 2:17). So faith alone is not enough for Baxter’s murderer to attain salvation. There must be regeneration, redemption, reconciliation, repentance, justification, etc.

Baxter’s problems with Christian sanctification:

Judging by Baxter’s description of hell, most of the people in hell are Christians! Her theology suggests people must be perfect “super-Christians” like her to enter heaven. But the Bible declares how erroneous it is for anyone to claim they are without sin and not a sinner: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]. Note that this is not a complete list. Read these Bible verses [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] for more information about how a Christian’s righteousness comes from Christ and not ourselves.

Baxter’s problems with God’s judgment:

Baxter’s problematic theology contradicts mainstream Christian theology concerning God’s judgment. She describes God’s judgment is based upon legalism where sinners are convicted for individual sins instead of being a sinner. For example, Baxter said the following about one particular lost person: “I wondered what she had been charged with that she should be imprisoned here” (p.66). In another example, Baxter said this about another lost person: “I wondered what this soul had done that it should be lost and hopeless” (p.40). Baxter’s theology allows a person to be chosen by the Father, redeemed by Christ, given faith by the Holy Spirit, become justified and sanctified, and still commit a single sin at the last moment of life and be lost forever in hell. But mainstream Christians generally do not fear losing their salvation simply because they believe their salvation is in Jesus’ hands – not theirs – and no one can take them from Jesus’ hands. See also [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11].

Baxter’s problems with eternal damnation:

Baxter’s problematic theology of eternal damnation contradicts Universalist passages in the Bible which state God’s ultimate plan is to save all of humanity. For example, “All flesh shall see the salvation of God” (Luke 3:6). There are many other references in the Bible as well: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19]. Note that this is not a complete list. Baxter also contradicts a plethora of NDE testimonies showing Christ has been rescuing people from hell from the very beginning to this very day (see Reverend Howard Storm’s NDE for example). Universal salvation was a doctrine present from the earliest days of Christianity. Not only that, universal salvation was the dominant belief among early Christian sects for hundreds of years after Christ’s death.

Baxter’s problems with the nature of God:

Baxter’s theology contradicts mainstream Christian theology concerning God. Baxter attributes words and actions to Jesus which should rightly be attributed to God. For example, she mentions Jesus proclaiming he is “a jealous God” (p.92). She depicts Jesus demanded people to worship him (p.92, 145, 156) which should only be done to God (Matthew 4:10). In Revelation 3:14, Jesus proclaimed himself to be “the Beginning of the creation of God.” Other Bible verses about Jesus being a man who was “anointed” with the fullness of the Holy Spirit include: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20]. Note this is not a complete list. The Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) also contains verses revealing God is not a man, nor a son of God, nor a son of man: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]. It was the mystery of the nature of this divine-human unity, specifically, the nature of Jesus, which was the subject of most of the debate during early Christianity. Was Jesus literally God in the flesh as the Church taught? Or was Jesus a man who had the fullness of the Holy Spirit — and if so — can everyone become like him as Jesus himself taught? (John 14:12)

12. Baxter’s book as a counter to Raymond Moody’s book “Life After Life”

a. Reasons why Baxter may have wanted to counter Moody’s book

There is evidence Baxter wrote her book as a counter reaction to Raymond Moody‘s New York Times best-selling NDE book, “Life After Life.” Consider the following:

The main evidence of Baxter’s book being a counter to Moody’s book is presented in Section B., Section C. and Section D. below.

Baxter claimed her journeys to hell began in 1976 which is one year after Moody’s book was published in 1975.

Moody’s book presented a very positive portrayal of the afterlife with positive NDEs being the norm.

At that time, many Christian critics incorrectly believed Moody’s book claimed there was no hell or at least minimized it.

Because of this, such critics incorrectly viewed Moody’s book and NDE testimonies as a threat to Christianity created by Satan to deceive the world about hell.

Such critics incorrectly believed the NDE “Being of Light” in Moody’s book welcoming people into heaven was instead Satan masquerading as Jesus telling the world there is no hell to fear after death. And if there is no hell to worry, the critics believed Moody’s NDE testimonies minimized Christ’s salvific work on the cross and opens the door for everyone to live an unchristian life.

After Moody’s book was published, Christian articles and books began to be published to counter Moody’s book and this perceived “New Age” threat.

Because Baxter claimed her book was divinely inspired to testify to the reality of hell, it is easy to see how her testimony is just one of many counter-reactions to Moody’s book.

One version of Baxter’s commission from Jesus is particularly telling: “Kathryn, you have been chosen by the Father to accompany me through the depths of hell. I will show you many things which I desire the world to know about hell and about heaven. I will tell you what to write so that this book will be a true record of what these unknown places are really like. My Spirit will reveal secrets about eternity, judgment, love, death and life hereafter.” (Baxter, 1993, A Divine Revelation of Hell, p.156).

Toward the end of her testimony, Baxter gives an unusual warning to the reader which is very telling, “What you are about to read will frighten you! I pray it will frighten you enough to make you a believer. I pray you will repent of your sins so you will not go to that awful place. I pray you will believe me, for I do not want this to happen to anyone else” (p.129). These words show Baxter possibly revealing her true motive for writing her book: to frighten the reader enough to make them believers of her theology and version of hell.

Her motive to counter Moody becomes especially revealing when you consider the next three Sections B., C. and D. below.

b. Baxter’s OBEs resemble those in Moody’s book but have severe flaws

Baxter claimed she had 40 consecutive out-of-body experiences (OBEs) in 40 consecutive days: 30 OBEs to hell and 10 OBEs to heaven. But there are several problems with this. While the description of Baxter’s OBE has some resemblance to OBEs described in Moody’s book, there are serious flaws:

Baxter only describes her first OBE in her book (p.14). This means we can only judge her experience based on a single OBE description which seems convenient to her.

Because she was willing to use much of her testimony from the Bible, it is shows she would have no qualms about using the description of her OBE from Moody’s book.

Moody’s book offers a wealth of information about the OBE component of NDEs (Moody, p.3, 19-20, 31-48, 51-52, 56-57, 68-73, 75-77, 80, 84, 88, 91-97, 104-106, 108-112, 123-124, 132-133, 136, 138, 142, 144, 146, 151, 153, 157).

Baxter claimed her “spirit” was “taken out of her body” by Jesus (p.14). But this is impossible because it would have resulted in her death or created a near-death condition. This has Biblical support as well:

Her claim of having 40 consecutive OBEs trips to hell without any real “trigger” is unrealistic and unnatural. She was not near-death, nor on her deathbed, nor in a coma, nor was she under the influence of any trigger that would induce a NDEs or OBE.

She described her OBE in third-person narrative which is neither normal nor natural and doesn’t resemble more reliable OBE and NDE testimonies. For example, she described her soul, body and spirit in third-person narrative this way:

Baxter’s “NDE”: “Instantly, my soul was taken out of my body. I went with Jesus up out of my room and into the sky… It was as though I had died and my body was left behind on the bed while my spirit was going with Jesus up through the top of the house” (p.14).

Actual experiencers of OBEs and NDEs describe their OBEs in first-person narrative in this manner:

Actual NDE: “Instantly, I was up near the ceiling and saw a body in the bed below me. I went with Jesus up out of my room and into the sky.. I realized I had died because the body below was mine and I was going with Jesus through the top of the house.”

Because Moody’s book contains many OBE descriptions of people floating through ceilings and walls (Moody, p.33, 40-42, 57, 94-95, 97, 109, 145), Baxter’s similar but unrealistic description appears to come from Moody’s descriptions of OBEs.

Her failure to realistically describe her OBE, and her contradiction of the Bible that the body without the spirit is dead, can be interpreted as further evidence of Baxter’s book being a counter-reaction to Moody’s book and therefore false.

c. Baxter’s “NDE tunnels” resemble those in Moody’s book but have severe flaws

Baxter described traveling through many “funnels” and “tunnels” which appear to be another example of using information about OBEs from Moody’s book (Moody, p.3, 19, 27-31, 63, 75). It was Moody who coined the term “tunnel” when describing NDEs. But in a odd manner, Baxter used these words “funnels” and “tunnels” interchangeably to mean the same thing. The following is evidence of Baxter getting the idea of tunnels from Moody:

Baxter described the tunnels as protruding out and above the earth then looping back into the center of the earth. Baxter mentioned Jesus telling her they are the “gateways to hell” (p.15). This description by Baxter is an obvious attempt to depict the NDE tunnel to heaven as evil.

Baxter initially used the word “funnels” to describe them which she does 3 times in her book (p.15, 31); but then oddly refers to them as “tunnels” (p.15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 46, 47, 48, and 50) for a total of 21 times throughout the rest of her book.

One of the chapters of her book (Chapter 5, p.46) is entitled “The Tunnel of Fear” where she portrays these tunnels in an evil manner. Elsewhere she also portrays these tunnels as evil.

Examples of Baxter Portraying “NDE Tunnels” As Evil

Baxter claims she saw evil spirits attached to the walls of the tunnel ready to be “spewed out on the earth when Satan gives the orders” (p.16).

Baxter claims she felt an “invisible, evil force moving inside the tunnels” (p.16) and “the worst odor I have ever smelled filled the air” (p.16).

Baxter claims she heard screams filling the air in the tunnel (p.61).

Baxter claims she saw “great snakes, large rats, and many evil spirits” all running around in the tunnels (p.48).

Baxter claims she saw “doorways about the size of small windows, opening and shutting very fast at the top of the tunnel” where demons were let loose upon the earth (p.20).

Reasons Why Baxter’s Portrayals of “NDE Tunnels” Are False

(1) But anyone familiar with NDE testimonies knows Baxter’s portrayals of NDE tunnels are completely false. Near-death experiencers frequently describe the tunnel experience as providing a sense of overwhelming warmth and peace as the experiencer is drawn to the light of God and heaven.

(2) Descriptions of the NDE tunnels in such a horrific way as Baxter’s provides cannot be found in the NDE literature.

(3) The evidence shows Baxter’s ulterior motive is to portray the NDE tunnel in such an evil way to discredit Moody’s NDE research and promote her narrow brand of theology.

(4) Apparently, her motive is to show that if Moody claims NDE tunnels lead to heaven, Baxter would attempt to show Jesus referring to the same NDE tunnels as “gateways to hell” instead.

(5) This is just further evidence of Baxter attempting to provide evidence to counter Moody’s book. Because of this, her testimony should be considered false testimony.

d. Baxter’s “afterlife movie screens” resemble those in Moody’s book but have severe flaws

Moody’s book mentions several instances where NDE experiencers have a life review where a “Being of Light” (often identified as Jesus) displays every event of their life in detail on a heavenly “television” or “movie screen” (Moody, p.31, 60, 147, 150). This is interesting because of the following facts:

Not surprisingly, Baxter also mentions “movie screens” in her book as Moody does; except in her case, it is Satan showing various events to demons (p.57-58).

Another peculiar fact is how this Satanic movie screen incident appears in the first edition of her book on hell (p.57-58) but not in the second edition of the same book published in 1997.

This is because Baxter removed pages 55-59 from the first edition and didn’t include them in the second edition.

These removed pages describe what Baxter observed after Jesus told her, “My child, behold the works of Satan” (p.55).

Baxter’s removal of the Satanic movie screen incident from the second edition of her book can be interpreted in a different light. She may have realized her Satanic movie screen incident was too similar to the movie screen incidents in Moody’s book.

Aside from that, the Satanic incident she described is so ridiculous it is not difficult to understand why it was removed.

13. Conclusion

So what are we to make of Baxter’s testimony considering there are so many errors, contradictions, dialogue problems, Biblical errors, and her own particular brand of theology? Baxter’s testimony doesn’t not pass Jesus’ Smell Test because it can be summarized this way:

Baxter’s testimony summarized:

FEAR hell. FEAR God. FEAR Jesus. FEAR Satan and demons. FEAR being tortured in hell. FEAR for your salvation. FEAR this report of mine. Hell is real. Don’t go there. Believe me because I’m anointed and chosen. Repent! Come to Jesus, sinner. Be holy and without sin like me.

I also believe there is sufficient evidence to conclude that Baxter’s book was written by her to counter Raymond Moody‘s best-selling book Life After Life. I believe she used concepts from Moody’s book, used verses from the King James Bible (especially the parable of Jesus and the Book of Revelation), and possibly used concepts about hell from Dante’s Inferno and/or John Bunyan’s NDE.

From the multitude of severe problems with Baxter’s book, A Divine Revelation of Hell, this book review has so far presented only the most serious errors in her book because of limitations to the size of this web page. Baxter deleted, added, and changed contents in the 1st edition of her book for the 2nd edition of her book including the altering Jesus’ words. I believe this was partially due to her book being written as a counter to Raymond Moody’s book. It is apparent to me that parts of Baxter’s book came from other books such as the Bible and possibly Raymond Moody’s book. Baxter’s book also contains numerous Biblical errors. Her depiction of Jesus is highly dishonoring in my opinion and doesn’t pass Jesus’ Smell Test. The phony dialogue and actions by everyone in her book appears to have originated from Baxter’s own mind and imagination. For these reasons, I don’t recommend anyone reading her book except as a lesson in how Charismatic “visions” of heaven and hell should neither be trusted nor accepted as truth at face value.

According to NDE and religious studies expert, Dr. Ken R. Vincent, we have hundreds of accounts of non-Christians having positive NDEs, deathbed experiences, and after-death communications, as well as mystical experiences. These accounts come from all over the world. We also know Christians have reported finding themselves in hell during an NDE; but both Christians and non-Christians are rescued from hell when they call out to God or (in the West) Jesus. Dr. George Ritchie is a good example of someone who was personally given a tour of heaven and hell by Jesus Christ himself. He said that ALL the people in hell — no matter how lost they were — had Beings of Light above them, waiting to rescue them. Also, the 18th-century physician and lay minister, George DeBenneville, had an NDE which underscores universal salvation. Universalism is the ONLY theological position with solid support from 150 years of research into NDEs and other mystical religious experiences. See also [1] [2] [3] [4] and [5].

Also, I am open to the idea of Mary Baxter herself providing me with contrary evidence which I would be happy to publish on this web page as well.