In my own NDE research, intense feelings of love is the number one most common characteristic found in NDEs. Along with feelings of love, there is also a wide spectrum of feelings that people may experience during an NDE. Many of these emotional states experienced in NDEs cannot be experienced in the physical realm. I have learned from more than one experiencer mention that there is no love in this physical world in comparison to heavenly love. One experiencer, Reverend Ken Martin, returned from his NDE only to discover that his life on earth, his ministry, his calling, his wife and family, everything – is insignificant compared to what he had just experienced in his NDE. As it is with many other NDEs, the experience is something that is completely out-of-this-world and cannot be described with words. It is an experience involving thoughts and feelings that have no real comparison in this physical world.
Table of Contents
- Playing harps and floating on clouds
- NDE intense emotions conclusions
- The nature of heavenly bliss
- Examples of people choosing lower realms over higher realms
1. Playing harps and floating on clouds
Someone wrote to me this interesting comment: “When reading about all of this eternal love and happiness, it sounds beautiful and amazing; however, it sounds like there are an infinite amount of spirits with plastered smiles on their faces floating around heaven … What everyone seems to say is that in heaven, EVERYONE goes around like they’re high on drugs. This is what it comes off as! Eternal bliss and unmatched feelings of love? Sounds amazing. It really does. The stories on your site make it sound as if when you die, Jesus tells you, “Tough shit. This is the way it is whether you like it or not,” and our spirit automatically transforms into a state of sheer, pure bliss without second thought. It scares me.”
Kevin Williams’ reply: Nobody forces you into eternal bliss or anywhere to do anything. There are many levels of love and happiness where you can choose and where you can fit in. It is the same principle found here on earth. Just follow your own level of bliss. Let me cite some of the best NDE references, in my opinion, concerning the tremendous ecstasy found in NDEs:
“Sexual orgasms can’t compare. You are so high. Magnify that to infinity!” (Berkley Carter Mills)
According to Dr. Kenneth Ring: “One woman told me that when she found herself in the light, ‘The feeling just became more and more and more ecstatic and glorious and perfect … If you took the one thousand best things that ever happened to you in your life and multiplied them by a million, maybe you could get close to this feeling.’ Another man wrote, ‘Then there was peace. Peace, but in order to give an idea of what one means by that, the letters would have to be written thousands of miles high in soft glowing colors … It is a complete happiness, total happiness, beyond the realm of happiness.'” (Dr. Kenneth Ring)
Jayne Smith stated: “Then I simply remember I became more blissful, more rapturous, more ecstatic. I was just filling and filling with this light and love that was in the light. The dynamics of this light are not static at all. They are so dynamic and so much going on in there of love and joy and knowledge. As you take it into yourself, or as it goes into you and you receive it, your ecstasy level just becomes tremendous … I reached the point in the rapture of it all where I thought to myself suddenly, the first thought, ‘I wonder how much more of this I can stand before I shatter?’ With that thought, the light began to recede. So, the universe will not let us shatter. We cannot take in more of this bliss and joy than we are able to handle at a time.” (Jayne Smith)
During Arthur Yensen’s NDE, he had a discussion with a heavenly being who resembled a Greek god. Yensen had the following conversation with him:
Yensen asked, “How do you explain this intense happiness?”
He answered, “Your thoughts are vibrations which are controlled by the Master-Vibration. It neutralizes all negative thoughts and lets you think only the good thoughts, such as love, freedom and happiness.”
Yensen asked, “Then what becomes of the old grouches?”
He answered, “If they are too bad they go to a realm of lower vibrations where their kind of thoughts can live. If they came here, the Master-Vibration would annihilate them. After death people gravitate into homogenous groups according to the rate of their soul’s vibrations. If the percent of discord in a person is small, it can be eliminated by the Master-Vibration; then the remaining good can live on here. For example, if a person were 70% good and 30% bad, the bad could be eliminated by the Master-Vibration and the remaining good welcomed into heaven. However, if the percentage of bad were too high, this couldn’t be done, and the person would have to gravitate to a lower level and live with people of his own kind.
“In the hereafter each person lives in the kind of a heaven or hell that he prepared for himself while on earth. If you threw a small pebble into a threshing machine, it would go into the box – not because it is good or bad, but because of its proper size and weight. It’s the same way here. No one sends you anywhere. You are sorted by the high or low vibrations of your soul. Everyone goes where he fits in! High vibrations indicate love and spiritual development, while low vibrations indicate debasement and evil.” (Arthur Yensen)
“They are brought to a path that heads up toward heaven and are committed to angel guardians there. Then they are accepted by some other angels and introduced into communities, and there into many forms of happiness.” (Emanuel Swedenborg)
Kevin Williams writes: “The happiness and ecstasy in NDEs are like nothing we can compare to on earth. God will not let us have more of this ecstasy than we can bear. There are many realms in the afterlife corresponding to the many levels of bliss that souls can choose from. In general, the level of bliss we realize after death is basically determined by our choice between positive vibes or negative vibes here on earth. And no one is locked into a particular vibrational level and each of us can choose higher and lower levels of bliss. The higher the vibrations we desire, the more our negative thoughts and feelings are replaced with positive thoughts and feelings.” (Kevin Williams)
2. NDE intense emotions conclusions
The following are the main conclusions I gleaned from the NDE insights above and my own research:
a. We can choose to rise to higher realms of love and happiness when we are ready and when we have earned it. No one is forced to dwell in a realm for which we are not compatible and for which we don’t desire or belong. Nobody forces light and happiness upon us.
b. In the higher realms where souls are more united in love, only perfect oneness survives. Many experiencers describe the lower hell realms as a condition where self-centeredness and darkness reigns supreme without inhibition. In my view, this suggests that as the soul rises to higher realms of vibration, the more the forces of oneness are applied to the soul. This means everyone becomes more and more on the same wavelength as the soul vibrations rise higher. That wavelength is the love, joy and peace of the light of God. Souls who dwell there want only the force of perfect unity, love and happiness to reign. This certainly does not mean that everyone goes around with plastered smiles and playing harps. However, I believe it does mean that souls desiring something different can find a realm to express their vibrations. In the lowest realms, there is no oneness – only self-centeredness and misery. Because unity increases as the vibrations of the soul grow higher, no negative vibrations exists – only positive vibrations. This allows for a freedom and happiness that cannot be compared with the earth experience.
c. The key to entering the higher realms is to desire only perfect love and happiness for everyone and yourself. This perfect state of the heart and mind certainly must involve experiencing the full range of love and happiness that exists. In the same way, there probably exists in the lower realms a full range of low vibrational emotions that can be expressed. This is one reason I believe that this physical realm is a vibrational level somewhere between the highest and the lowest. Perhaps one of the reasons we are here in the physical realm is to learn how to cope with these high and low emotional vibes.
d. God doesn’t force anyone to any level of bliss they don’t desire or don’t belong. We are free to choose and create our own level of bliss. And the saying birds of a feather flock together certainly applies to all levels of the heart and mind. But there is evidence from near-death accounts that all dimensions of reality are on a path that eventually returns to the oneness of God.
e. Perhaps our citizenship in this half-way to heaven realm means we need both experiences of higher and lower emotional states for soul growth. Mellen-Thomas Benedict once commented on how we are all here to help each other to attain a higher level of consciousness. He said that we are going to “link up, hold hands, and walk out of hell together.”
3. The nature of heavenly bliss
The same person wrote to me this comment: “The big problem I have is not with happiness and joy. It is just that I WANT to have some type of negative feelings. Wouldn’t you think that around hour number two of being blissful and joyous to no extent, you would start to get, frankly, bored? What is any positive without a negative. It is undefined … boring. Sheer bliss without periods of non-bliss would not be good to me at all. This is what I’m afraid of.”
Kevin Williams’ reply: “There is evidence suggesting that others agree with your desire to experience less than higher realms of bliss. For example, during Jayne Smith’s NDE, heavenly bliss was not forced on her and she concluded that God will not let us shatter from more bliss than we desire. We cannot take in more of this love and bliss than we are able to handle at a time. So you see, some people experience exactly what you are referring to in their NDE – not becoming blissed-out. We all come to earth on a mission from God. I am convinced that those who come here from higher realms are probably trying to bring heaven to earth. Those who come here from lower realms are probably trying to remove the influences from their previous experiences in the lower realms. NDErs who visit higher vibrational realms of bliss often carry these influences back with them to share with the rest of us for the purpose of our enlightenment. Many NDE accounts involve people voluntarily returning from these higher realms to our lower realm. According to one particular experiencer, she had a choice between remaining or staying. She decided to return because she preferred experiencing physical things than experience higher levels of bliss (See the NDE of Dr. Dianne Morrissey). Not all people experience ecstasy during an NDE. Some have very negative experiences when they find themselves in a realm where God appears to be nowhere around (as in the lower hell realms). Some of these realms are totally devoid of love and happiness and there are those who belong there because they fit in. According to Dr. George Ritchie, those who prefer to entertain negative vibes can and do flee the light and bliss of God after death because they are too uncomfortable to have their inner thoughts and feelings revealed to everyone. When Howard Storm was rescued from hell by Jesus, he felt very uncomfortable in the higher realm.” (Kevin Williams)
4. Examples of people choosing lower realms over higher realms
The following NDE accounts involve experiencers preferring, for one reason or another, to return to this lower physical realm rather than experience the bliss of higher realms.
“I reached the point in the rapture of it all where I thought to myself suddenly, “I wonder how much more of this I can stand before I shatter?” With that thought, the light began to recede. So, the universe will not let us shatter. We cannot take in more of this bliss and joy than we are able to handle at a time.” (Jayne Smith)
“I felt torn between two desires: wanting to go into the light and wanting to touch something tangible and retain my connection with all that was physical. (For this reason, she returned to the physical realm.)” (Dr. Dianne Morrissey)
“In my NDE I was also shown that there are many souls in heaven who are more than willing to come to this place regardless of the state it is in.” (David Oakford)
Karen Schaeffer wrote: “At a time when I felt the closest to accepting my death, I experienced a resurge of sorrow and pain, longing for my son, for my life. I couldn’t let go of my human life. My guides tried their hardest, they never gave up, they never became discouraged. It is unbelievable the amount of patience and love they exuded. Finally, my hysteria was calmed by a higher spirit who seemed to envelop me in love. My guides were instructed to allow me to return. Despite their pleas to allow them more time, they were told that at this point, my spirit would not rest. It was best to let me return, to settle my spirit, learn further lessons. My pleading won my return for the time being. I understood before my descent that my friends and family had lessons that were being postponed, but they would have to learn the lessons at some point that my death taught.” (Karen Schaeffer)
“Then I made the decision to come back to earth. And I remember that it was such a hard decision. It was so difficult because everything there was so beautiful and there was so, so, much love. I had the feeling of freewill, yet a feeling of duty was present – of obligation. And the second that I realized that I shot back into my body.” (Brian Krebs)
“This man was not able to tell us how long this reunion lasted. He was so awed by his family’s health, their beauty, their radiance and their total acceptance of this present situation, by their unconditional love. He made a vow not to touch them, not to join them, but to re-enter his physical body so that he could share with the world what he had experienced. It would be a form of redemption for his two years of trying to throw his physical life away.” (Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross)
“During his experience he had seen images of people he knew … I wanted to get there but there was just some part of me that wanted to [pause] go back with these images … When I woke up, the first thing I thought was Oh, God. Thank you. I made it, and I was extremely happy. (He had been severely depressed before his suicide attempt.)” (Dr. Kenneth Ring)
After Sandra Rogers shot herself and during her NDE, she was told that she could remain in the light, provided she later is reincarnated to re-experience and overcome all that brought her to the point of suicide. Or she could be revived to live out rest of her life and overcome her problems here and now. Obviously, she chose not to stay in the light so that she could resume her life and not have to face the same problems in a future life. (Sandra Rogers)
“So, in conclusion, nobody forces us to experience a particular level of bliss we don’t want. It appears from NDE accounts that people are given the choice to: (a) reincarnate or (b) be revived from death to return to earth (c) or experience a particular vibrational level that we desire and have earned. If we desire to remain in the physical realm, we are allowed to do so. But because the core of our being is perfect love and joy (God), I don’t believe we will ever be truly satisfied until we reunite completely with God and others in the higher realms of bliss.” (Kevin Williams)
The same person wrote to me this comment: “Descriptions of heaven do seem overwhelmingly blissful and simplistic. One cannot be blamed for getting the impression that the next life is hyper-happy, bright floaty white and churchy … I believe many of us, deep inside, are a bit frightened of a perpetual white happy Jesus heaven.”
Kevin Williams’ reply: “The idea of heaven as being a place where people float on clouds and play harps is one of the biggest misconceptions about heaven. It certainly has nothing to do with any NDEs that I have read. One particular experiencer, Mellen-Thomas Benedict, had the opportunity to visit many of the heavenly realms that exists on the other side during his NDE. He stated something that came to my mind while reading your comment. Here it is:
“I saw the Christian heaven. We expect it to be a beautiful place, and you stand in front of the throne, worshiping forever. I tried it. It is boring! This is all we are going to do? It is childlike. I do not mean to offend anyone. Some heavens are very interesting, and some are very boring. I found the ancient ones to be more interesting, like the Native American ones, the Happy Hunting Grounds. The Egyptians have fantastic ones. It goes on and on. There are so many of them. In each of them there is a fractal that is your particular interpretation, unless you are part of the group soul that believes in only the God of a particular religion. Then you are very close, in the same ball park together. But even then, each is a little bit different. That is a part of yourself that you leave there. Death is about life, not about heaven.” (Mellen-Thomas Benedict)
“Those who have visited higher afterlife realms state that the physical realm is but a shadow – a lesser reality – when compared to the higher heavenly realms. Some of these realms are described as being far more dynamic than anything experienced on earth. In conclusion, the saying to each his own certainly applies. We always create our own reality based on our own desires. If one desires worshiping eternally before the throne, they will be allowed to do so until they begin to get the feeling that what they desire is an illusion. For these reasons I say follow your bliss but be careful what you wish for because you will probably get what you ask for.” (Kevin Williams)